Lamb?

[Goapps15]

Guys and girls he is a good qb. He will never be great, he will never have an all-American arm but he wins the games he is supposed to win.

[t4pizza]

As the season progresses, I actually think the real issue is our receivers. Yes, TL has limited arm strength but he always has and yet looked better the previous 2 seasons. Like many things in sports, the mental aspect is very important. If you can't trust your receivers to either be in the right place or catch the ball if they get the chance, then you start pressing as a qb and bad things happen. I really feel that is the issue this season. I am certain that there have been more dropped passes this year than TL's previous 2 seasons. A big concern this off season was how would our young receivers play, well I think the answer is not all that well. The only guy that TL seems to have complete faith in is Meadors, who also happens to be the guy that catches the balls thrown to him. The good news is that we shouldn't have this issue next year as qb and wr should all be on the same page and comfortable with one another after a year of playing together.

[WVAPPeer]

Someone please help me here --- Are we 18-2 in our last 20 SB games? - Are we 22-2 in our last G5 games? - We lost games with AE at QB and he is the best I have ever seen --- Lamb has limitations as most all QBs - it is the job of the coaches to minimize those - The goal is to win the game !!! --- Who can list all the All-American QBs or even All-Conference QBs who have lead Alabama to National Championships over the last 10 years ??? Some of you are f-ing delusional ---

[JTApps1]

So Lamb just magically got worse after 2 years as a starter? Sure...

Has nothing to do with losing 4 Senior WR's I'm sure. At the end of his career he will be 1st or 2nd in every QB category in App State history. If not for a guy named Edwards he would own every career record. AND he is doing it against better competition than anyone before him.

He isn't an All-American QB, but he is better than most of the QB's we have faced. Even Silvers, who some people love, was missing a lot of throws Saturday.

[Rick83]

Someone please help me here --- Are we 18-2 in our last 20 SB games? - Are we 22-2 in our last G5 games? - We lost games with AE at QB and he is the best I have ever seen --- Lamb has limitations as most all QBs - it is the job of the coaches to minimize those - The goal is to win the game !!! --- Who can list all the All-American QBs or even All-Conference QBs who have lead Alabama to National Championships over the last 10 years ??? Some of you are f-ing delusional ---

WVAPPeer...winning almost every game apparently isn't good enough. He's got to win EVERY game and not just win, but throw beautiful tight spirals to inexperienced receivers that he's got to somehow force them to get open...even if he's having to scramble and throw off-balance. And god forbid, don't make a hasty decision and throw an interception, because the greats never have INTs...let's get real people.

[ringac]

I have never been a big believer in Lamb. Even when we are winning. I don't think he is particularly skilled at the QB position. But skills aside, I have always thought he lacked football knowledge. He has never shown me that he can read defenses and make adjustments. His decision making is also very poor. He usually hesitates way too much when passing or running. His passes are mostly inaccurate. If you pay attention, most of his passes are above or behind the receiver. Do the receivers end up catching them? Sometimes. But not enough to justify a starting QB position.

To those of you saying that he is a winner who finds a way to win and that is all that matters, that has only been true when facing subpar teams. When playing a team with only a decent defense, he struggles severely.

I know that we are a run first offense. But we can't be a run only offense. It is extremely easy to stack the line and stop the run when you know it is coming on every down. You have to be able to throw to keep the defense guessing.

[ASUGoose]

Is he the best we've ever had? No. Is he the best we currently have? Yes. He is good, I wouldn't say great, but good.

This is not meant to be flippant in any way but how do we all know that Taylor is the best QB we have currently have at this point?

I'd argue we haven't seen enough of JP in actual game settings to accurately say Taylor is any better or worse.

[AppStateNews]

I have never been a big believer in Lamb. Even when we are winning. I don't think he is particularly skilled at the QB position. But skills aside, I have always thought he lacked football knowledge. He has never shown me that he can read defenses and make adjustments. His decision making is also very poor. He usually hesitates way too much when passing or running. His passes are mostly inaccurate. If you pay attention, most of his passes are above or behind the receiver. Do the receivers end up catching them? Sometimes. But not enough to justify a starting QB position.

To those of you saying that he is a winner who finds a way to win and that is all that matters, that has only been true when facing subpar teams. When playing a team with only a decent defense, he struggles severely.

I know that we are a run first offense. But we can't be a run only offense. It is extremely easy to stack the line and stop the run when you know it is coming on every down. You have to be able to throw to keep the defense guessing.

How many years have you spent playing the QB position at the FBS level? Or, for that matter, coaching? Lamb wins because he has a tremendous amount of football knowledge.

His skills may not be the best we have seen in the black and gold, but you don't break Armanti's records without having talent. He rarely makes mistakes, reads defenses very well, and manages the game. He does exactly what the coaches ask him to do and does it well.

[Saint3333]

Say what you will about Lamb, but he's one of the best decision makers we've ever had at QB.

[Rekdiver]

Got no problem with Lamb at all..........just saying..........I see lots of other things that need work

[Budman2154]

My concern with Lamb is how he tends to stare down a receiver and numerous times throws into double coverage.

[WVAPPeer]

I have never been a big believer in Lamb. Even when we are winning. I don't think he is particularly skilled at the QB position. But skills aside, I have always thought he lacked football knowledge. He has never shown me that he can read defenses and make adjustments. His decision making is also very poor. He usually hesitates way too much when passing or running. His passes are mostly inaccurate. If you pay attention, most of his passes are above or behind the receiver. Do the receivers end up catching them? Sometimes. But not enough to justify a starting QB position.

To those of you saying that he is a winner who finds a way to win and that is all that matters, that has only been true when facing subpar teams. When playing a team with only a decent defense, he struggles severely.

I know that we are a run first offense. But we can't be a run only offense. It is extremely easy to stack the line and stop the run when you know it is coming on every down. You have to be able to throw to keep the defense guessing.

I have to say this is one of the most asinine posts on here in some time ---

[SpeedkingATL]

We would have beaten Tennessee and Troy with a quarterback defenses had to respect

Totally disagree, and people, we would not have had the success we've had for the last 28 games without his leadership at the position. Look at the only teams that have beaten us in the last 28 games, Clemson, Arkansas St (Sun Belt Champion), Tennessee, Miami, Troy (probable Sun Belt Champion). Methinks expectations are a little high for a team just graduating from FCS play. We're in the midst of the toughest schedule in the history of App State Football and we're 7-3 and still in title contention!

+1

[Yosef84]

Is he the best we've ever had? No. Is he the best we currently have? Yes. He is good, I wouldn't say great, but good.

This is not meant to be flippant in any way but how do we all know that Taylor is the best QB we have currently have at this point?

I'd argue we haven't seen enough of JP in actual game settings to accurately say Taylor is any better or worse.

We know because we have a coaching staff who evaluates the players on an ongoing basis. It is THEIR job to make the decision about who is the best QB and who gives us the best chance to win. Since they have a vested interest in winning, I have confidence that is exactly what they are doing. It is NOT their job to give the fans enough footage of alternatives to make the decisions collectively.

I am not saying that Lamb is the second coming of AE but the expectations that many of you have are completely over the top. It's great having high standards, but I see plenty of P5 programs who have major difficulty find a QB to run their offense consistently. Last year, Georgia would have LOVED to have Taylor Lamb because all they had was a transfer from Virginia who couldn't buy a touchdown with a Platinum VISA. Lamb isn't perfect, but he is throwing to a group of rookie receivers. Even Meadors didn't really hit stride until mid season. Capel is a great athlete but seems to have trouble hanging onto passes at times. All that factors into the rhythm and confidence of the QB. Lamb has one more year and with this group of receivers returning, I wager he gets plenty of "respect" from opposing defenses.

[Rekdiver]

My concern with Lamb is how he tends to stare down a receiver and numerous times throws into double coverage.

It does not happen that often Budman

[QueencityApp]

Lamb will surprise you every now and then, like the scramble for 30 or so yards for a TD at Southern and then this past weekend hitting Ike Lewis in stride for a big gain down the field at Troy. If he only had the wheels to get out of trouble when the pocket collapsed I think people would give him more slack. But I mean look who he's following in our past with Richie, Armanti and Jamal all of which I feel had better mobility than Lamb. I do feel he has regressed just a tad from his Freshman and Sophomore years. I still can't believe we went down to ULL and Ark St his Freshman year and won.

[ASUGoose]

Is he the best we've ever had? No. Is he the best we currently have? Yes. He is good, I wouldn't say great, but good.

This is not meant to be flippant in any way but how do we all know that Taylor is the best QB we have currently have at this point?

I'd argue we haven't seen enough of JP in actual game settings to accurately say Taylor is any better or worse.

We know because we have a coaching staff who evaluates the players on an ongoing basis. It is THEIR job to make the decision about who is the best QB and who gives us the best chance to win. Since they have a vested interest in winning, I have confidence that is exactly what they are doing. It is NOT their job to give the fans enough footage of alternatives to make the decisions collectively.

I am not saying that Lamb is the second coming of AE but the expectations that many of you have are completely over the top. It's great having high standards, but I see plenty of P5 programs who have major difficulty find a QB to run their offense consistently. Last year, Georgia would have LOVED to have Taylor Lamb because all they had was a transfer from Virginia who couldn't buy a touchdown with a Platinum VISA. Lamb isn't perfect, but he is throwing to a group of rookie receivers. Even Meadors didn't really hit stride until mid season. Capel is a great athlete but seems to have trouble hanging onto passes at times. All that factors into the rhythm and confidence of the QB. Lamb has one more year and with this group of receivers returning, I wager he gets plenty of "respect" from opposing defenses.

Not arguing whether or not the coaching staff should placate to the fan base to play another QB instead, but merely pointing out that WE AS FANS cannot definitively say that Taylor is our best QB we have currently. WE AS FANS haven't seen enough of anyone else to make that statement in either direction.

[bigdaddyg]

Guys who constantly pick apart and criticize Lamb must really have access to multidimensional video equipment. They have the ability to see the entire field on every play. They can see the routes that the receivers run (and know if they are correct), and they can also see field level from right behind Taylor- that must be awesome. If all that isn't available to be able to know that he stares down receivers and to be able to determine the velocity of his passes and all of the other aspects that some of you experts spout off is incredible data. Just like with the kicking complaints most of the TL criticism is BS. I mean what constitutes a QB that people want? Folks we ain't gonna get a 5 star kid!

[Rick83]

I've said this before and still stand by it: If Lamb stays healthy through this and next year, he'll go down as one of the best (perhaps 2nd only to the Great One...AE) QBs in App State history. He has taken a team that was beaten down in the final year of FCS and struggling in year 1 of FBS and resuscitated our winning tradition at the FBS level. He will leave a legacy of excellence and if his receiving corps matures next year and the OL is in good shape...the offense will dominate next year even losing Cox to graduation. TL is not flashy (and certainly not perfect) but he is a winner and I love, LOVE the way he maintains his composure even when something bad happens.

[Appdoggy]

Here are Lamb's stats from every full game he's played against P-5 teams and against Sun Belt teams that were/are considered good on a national level.

2014 GA Southern 23/42 256 0td 2int

2015 Clemson 9/28 95 1td 3int -- Ok, ok this was against one of the best defenses in college football

2016 Tenn. 15/23 108yds 1td 1int -- Majority of these stats came from 1-foot passes...

2016 Miami 10/21 115yds 1 td 1int

2016 Troy 14/28 167yds 0td 1int

That is an average of 50% comp. 148.2yds .6tds and 1.6int...

I am not of the opinion that Lamb doesn't have a good football mind or that he makes bad decisions because neither of those assertions are true. I think he will be a good coach some day like his father and, for the most part, he doesn't force things and knows when to throw the ball away. However, I just don't think he has the talent (arm-strength or accuracy) to perform against talented, athletic defenses. He's perfectly fine against the ULMs, ULLs, and Georgia States of the world, but lets be honest, these are some of the worst teams in college football in arguably the worst conference in college football.

I'm also not saying he's not the best we have right now because he probably is. I'm just hoping the staff has their guy in Derrick. Adding a QB that presents a real downfield threat paired with Moore in the backfield would take this team to the next level.