When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by hotrod2001 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:57 pm

I would assume next Saturday when we need to be at 100%

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by mountaineerman » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:37 pm

This team is gong to roll next week !

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Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:45 pm

mountaineerman wrote:This team is gong to roll next week !
If we do, we had best not kneel out the clock. Otherwise, someone will revisit this thread. :lol:
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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:23 pm

goapps93 wrote:How do you measure "playing to their full potential?" You are making a comparison of something that's completely in the control of the student to something that's dependent on so much more, i.e. teammates, play calling, injuries, considering the next game, etc. If you're simply talking about not making mistakes and committing penalties then I'm in agreement but football is not something in which every player, or coach even, will execute perfectly on every play. The objective is to win to the game and negate mistakes. It is not as easy as some on message boards want to make it. Your kid's classes don't game plan against him or her and make adjustments in mid semester. It's not a fair comparison. We are winning, be happy. We will have to play better to beat Troy and I'm sure our players and coaches are aware of that but, still,
we only have to play good enough to win.
"we only have to play good enough to win." is something you will never hear Nick Sabin teach.

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:16 am

AtlAppMan wrote:I want our guys to play a full game at their potential regardless of the score. The score is NOT what I am basing my comments on.

I ask anyone if your kid comes home with a B on their grades and you know they could get an A, they tell you "oh I passed by 15 pts so I didnt need to worry about doing my best for the entire course" is that good enough? No, It's not. All I am asking is that they stay focused and play to their potential for a full game. Why is that so bad?
What's the concussion protocol in your child's classroom?

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:24 am

The "playing a full 60 minutes" is something that appears to be on Scott Satterfield's mind. He has talked about it in the post game interviews a few times. I would think he is overly worried but when asked if he thought we had given the full 60 minutes yesterday he replied that we hadn't. He said we got a little sloppy in the second half. I'm sure he would be more comfortable if the third quarter had been more dominant but he also didn't make a huge deal about it.

I don't think the guys are coasting. It's not like we are squeaking out wins. We haven't even been challenged in conference yet. I can't help but remember my track days (in High School). I have a very competitive nature and always wanted to win. My senior year I did well and won consistently but I never came close to running my BEST time until I ran against someone who pushed me later in the season. Track records are rarely broken against average competition. They fall in the big meets when the elite athletes face off against each other.

I believe the young men on this App team are winners. They will be laser focused on the Trojans and I do think we will finally get a better idea of what they can do in a 60 minute game. I am more concerned about the mental errors (penalties) that come from being so intensely focused and competitive. I do believe it will be a great game!

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:53 am

One aspect of this conversation piece that gets lost is how freaking good our defense must really be. We have had this discussion after 3 or 4 games, all of which were essentially over at half. Even with sloppy play, coasting and taking the foot off the pedal the opponents still haven't done much of anything against us.

As a side note, what the heck has happened at Marshall? Wow

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by Longrifle28 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:15 am

After watching the game this morning, I've decided that our identity is methodical, wear you down offense and strangle the crap out of you defense. They scored on their opening drive when we went vanilla on defense to see what they were trying to do, and then after a special teams play that left them with 4 yards to go. Other than that they couldnt get squat going, and the qb ran for his life. On offense we gained our 300 yards rushing (with Cox and Moore each going over 100), and spread the ball around to receivers. We didnt turn it over and although it wasnt pretty, Rubino made all his kicks. Still need to cut down penalties that stopped a couple drives. We dont seem to panic and we overcome mistakes.

Will be interesting to see if we can play with a sense of urgency when we need to, how we respond to adversity when we need to, and can we limit mistakes when we play at Troy. I think we are up to the task, and I really like the fact we have a lot of really good starters and depth.
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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:30 am

Something that I think some of you are missing (or not considering) except for Moose and a few others is that - THE KEY THING for our defense is to not let the opponents break one of those flat passes for a long play or TD - how many games have you seen this year where a pass to the flat turns into a TD because the defenders miss the tackle - As 28 just mentioned, on the first drive our defense was sitting back to read how/what TxSt was doing giving our coaches the chance to make changes - Which they certainly did !!! ---
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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by ASU3432Mi » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:45 am

Worst officiating crew yesterday that we've had all year. Did I see the white hat overrule himself on a penalty call late in the game?

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:52 am

If we'd won 17-10 I'd be in agreement that we need to play better. This one was over at halftime. Sure I'd like to be entertained by pouring it on in the second half, but I'm not particularly worried about 35-10.

As far as covering the spread, I believe we're 5-4 ATS this year, and would be 6-3 if not for the last-second TD by Idaho.

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:27 pm

It's interesting that everyone loves when our defense shuts down an opponent for most of the game but seems okay when our offense doesn't perform up to their level for a full game. Here are a few points about our offense in 2nd half. 7 possessions, 1 TD, 1- 5 and out, 5- 3 and outs (a couple a result of penalties), 1 blocked punt allowed. Sat even said we got sloppy.

All I have asked is that our offense stay focused and play up to their abilities for the full game. Seems the coaches also expect the same. Every ultra successful coach I know has called his team out even if they win big against an over matched opponent yet don't play to their abilities, i.e. Coach K, Saban, Meyers, Dean Smith, etc., etc. I don't think we should be making excuses for them and they should not either.

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:30 pm

AppinVA wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:What did we fail to do today, other than cover?
Why can't the guys ever seem to cover the spread? You would think Vegas would have learned by now that App coasts with a big lead and their spreads are too high.
We're shaving points. :lol:
Ha, I was reading guys on ESPN (obvious gamblers, not App fans) accusing App of just that things. "Why do they never score in the fourth quarter to cover the spread?" they were saying. I just laughed.

I thought the guys look good, but it's clear they lighten up with a big lead. I hope it doesn't bit them in the last four games.

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:36 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:It's interesting that everyone loves when our defense shuts down an opponent for most of the game but seems okay when our offense doesn't perform up to their level for a full game. Here are a few points about our offense in 2nd half. 7 possessions, 1 TD, 1- 5 and out, 5- 3 and outs (a couple a result of penalties), 1 blocked punt allowed. Sat even said we got sloppy.

All I have asked is that our offense stay focused and play up to their abilities for the full game. Seems the coaches also expect the same. Every ultra successful coach I know has called his team out even if they win big against an over matched opponent yet don't play to their abilities, i.e. Coach K, Saban, Meyers, Dean Smith, etc., etc. I don't think we should be making excuses for them and they should not either.
I keep thinking with the way the defense plays and the occasional flashes we see from the offense hat this team has 50 point blowout win in them but it never seems to come.

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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:10 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:It's interesting that everyone loves when our defense shuts down an opponent for most of the game but seems okay when our offense doesn't perform up to their level for a full game. Here are a few points about our offense in 2nd half. 7 possessions, 1 TD, 1- 5 and out, 5- 3 and outs (a couple a result of penalties), 1 blocked punt allowed. Sat even said we got sloppy.

All I have asked is that our offense stay focused and play up to their abilities for the full game. Seems the coaches also expect the same. Every ultra successful coach I know has called his team out even if they win big against an over matched opponent yet don't play to their abilities, i.e. Coach K, Saban, Meyers, Dean Smith, etc., etc. I don't think we should be making excuses for them and they should not either.
I think everybody understands the issue and I think the coaches probably ARE calling them on it. They just aren't doing it publicly which is completely appropriate. Satterfield did say they got sloppy and I bet he is dealing with the drop off in intensity. I just think many of us are getting worn out with the recurring threads because this issue is not going to be resolved on the message board. If the intensity drops next week against Troy, it will be a much more concerning issue. So far, is has NOT dropped when it was needed. At GS, we were tied at the half and turned in a dominating second half. We will see how this plays out.

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:19 pm

AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:What did we fail to do today, other than cover?
Why can't the guys ever seem to cover the spread? You would think Vegas would have learned by now that App coasts with a big lead and their spreads are too high.
We're shaving points. :lol:
Ha, I was reading guys on ESPN (obvious gamblers, not App fans) accusing App of just that things. "Why do they never score in the fourth quarter to cover the spread?" they were saying. I just laughed.

I thought the guys look good, but it's clear they lighten up with a big lead. I hope it doesn't bit them in the last four games.
Obviously this is all tongue in cheek but kind of disturbing to even hear the gambling aspect. I picked the score 34-10 App with the game over at half. We pretty much ain't scoring in the 4th with a 4 score lead

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:28 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:What did we fail to do today, other than cover?
Why can't the guys ever seem to cover the spread? You would think Vegas would have learned by now that App coasts with a big lead and their spreads are too high.
We're shaving points. :lol:
Ha, I was reading guys on ESPN (obvious gamblers, not App fans) accusing App of just that things. "Why do they never score in the fourth quarter to cover the spread?" they were saying. I just laughed.

I thought the guys look good, but it's clear they lighten up with a big lead. I hope it doesn't bit them in the last four games.
Obviously this is all tongue in cheek but kind of disturbing to even hear the gambling aspect. I picked the score 34-10 App with the game over at half. We pretty much ain't scoring in the 4th with a 4 score lead
My observation is definitely a joke.
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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:33 pm

AppinVA wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
Why can't the guys ever seem to cover the spread? You would think Vegas would have learned by now that App coasts with a big lead and their spreads are too high.
We're shaving points. :lol:
Ha, I was reading guys on ESPN (obvious gamblers, not App fans) accusing App of just that things. "Why do they never score in the fourth quarter to cover the spread?" they were saying. I just laughed.

I thought the guys look good, but it's clear they lighten up with a big lead. I hope it doesn't bit them in the last four games.
Obviously this is all tongue in cheek but kind of disturbing to even hear the gambling aspect. I picked the score 34-10 App with the game over at half. We pretty much ain't scoring in the 4th with a 4 score lead
My observation is definitely a joke.
Oh I know. Lol

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Re: When are we going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:58 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
AppinVA wrote: We're shaving points. :lol:
Ha, I was reading guys on ESPN (obvious gamblers, not App fans) accusing App of just that things. "Why do they never score in the fourth quarter to cover the spread?" they were saying. I just laughed.

I thought the guys look good, but it's clear they lighten up with a big lead. I hope it doesn't bit them in the last four games.
Obviously this is all tongue in cheek but kind of disturbing to even hear the gambling aspect. I picked the score 34-10 App with the game over at half. We pretty much ain't scoring in the 4th with a 4 score lead
My observation is definitely a joke.
Oh I know. Lol
Yep. Can't be too careful these days, though.
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Re: When is our offense going to play 60 mins?

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:12 pm

I honestly think we just sleep walked through the second half yesterday because we had a huge lead and wanted to keep the playbook closed and not risk injury with our biggest game of the season a week away. And if you notice, the one time Texas State cut into the lad a bit (28-10) our offense effortlessly moved it back down the field to go up 35-10

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