Coaching change at UNCCheat

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:13 pm

Satt is certainly gone soon, it is just a matter of how soon. Based on all of the factors surrounding him, I did not think the UNC job made sense for him (obviously just speculation) other than location. One of my UNC friends said Satt should worry about not striking while the iron is hot, but I just do not see App having some big let down anytime soon with the recruits we have lined up. We certainly will have peaks and valleys, but to think we will be a sub .500 or .500 type of season anytime soon would be severely underrating this staff and program. I think a solid P5 with a good tradition would be able to take him within 4 years, otherwise i think we keep him until his daughter graduates and then he would make himself available to take on a "challenge" at any P5 with a fat checkbook.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by Yosef10 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:23 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:13 pm
Satt is certainly gone soon, it is just a matter of how soon. Based on all of the factors surrounding him, I did not think the UNC job made sense for him (obviously just speculation) other than location. One of my UNC friends said Satt should worry about not striking while the iron is hot, but I just do not see App having some big let down anytime soon with the recruits we have lined up. We certainly will have peaks and valleys, but to think we will be a sub .500 or .500 type of season anytime soon would be severely underrating this staff and program. I think a solid P5 with a good tradition would be able to take him within 4 years, otherwise i think we keep him until his daughter graduates and then he would make himself available to take on a "challenge" at any P5 with a fat checkbook.
With all due respect to your UNC friend, has he ever heard of Chris Peterson? He had Boise as a power for nearly a damn decade until he jumped to a bigger gig. While we have been racking up wins Satt still doesn’t have a P5 win to date, never beaten a ranked team, and, while this likely changes Saturday, has never won an outright SBC title. While i get why Satts stock is high, and agree it should be, he still has boxes to check on the resume for him to really be considered a home run hire.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:44 pm

Per IC (take it for what it's worth), top 3 choices were Fleck, Satterfield and Mack Brown. Fleck wanted too much money and the Rams Club wouldn't get behind Satterfield for lack of experience. Per PP and their connections(take it for what it's worth), UNC got turned down by both Fleck and Satterfield, Brown was their 3rd choice. All agree that the decision was made months ago, however. Although I think it would have been the wrong decision, I really hope they chose to pass on Satterfield. Satterfield strikes me as the guy that would stay one more year just to make them pay.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by biggie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:54 pm

Hate to look forward, but if he's here next year and we go undefeated with 2 "P5" wins...

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:06 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:23 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:13 pm
Satt is certainly gone soon, it is just a matter of how soon. Based on all of the factors surrounding him, I did not think the UNC job made sense for him (obviously just speculation) other than location. One of my UNC friends said Satt should worry about not striking while the iron is hot, but I just do not see App having some big let down anytime soon with the recruits we have lined up. We certainly will have peaks and valleys, but to think we will be a sub .500 or .500 type of season anytime soon would be severely underrating this staff and program. I think a solid P5 with a good tradition would be able to take him within 4 years, otherwise i think we keep him until his daughter graduates and then he would make himself available to take on a "challenge" at any P5 with a fat checkbook.
With all due respect to your UNC friend, has he ever heard of Chris Peterson? He had Boise as a power for nearly a damn decade until he jumped to a bigger gig. While we have been racking up wins Satt still doesn’t have a P5 win to date, never beaten a ranked team, and, while this likely changes Saturday, has never won an outright SBC title. While i get why Satts stock is high, and agree it should be, he still has boxes to check on the resume for him to really be considered a home run hire.
You don’t have to respect him, he is a UNC fan! :D

I used the Peterson example with him too..... UNC fans are delusional. He knows enough about football that I think he was a little peeved that they went the Mack route vs Satt.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:10 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:11 pm
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App has dodged a bullet today. I have to say, it is amusing that some people here are peeved that Satt was passed over. Sports fans, sheesh! Satt hired agent Jimmy Sexton last year, and that wasn't to help keep his kids in Watauga County Schools. The carousel has just begun to spin, so hold on.
Lol do you really think you’re telling any of us something that we don’t already know? There’s guys on message boards in every fan base who thinks their up and comer will stay forever, the majority of this fan base knows that isn’t the case here unless Satts performance really falls off a cliff. I will say it’s always better to have your HC in talks of being poached by a P5 than being fired, sign of a healthy G5 program. But yeah thanks for the heads up.
Lol also who's upset he's getting "passed over"? Nobody. Pass over our perinneal 10 win coach? Pass over our perinneal conference championship winner? Pass over the first head coach to get us ranked? Yes please.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by postalapp90 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:35 pm

Satterfield said he was not contacted by UNC on the sun belt teleconference.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by Appalachman » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:41 pm

Every coach on the list can likely say that. They use agents for this very purpose. Only the interviewed will generally actually talk directly with ADs, etc.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by biggie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:55 pm

Seems this was a target at Mack Brown anyway, probably no other contact unless he would have turned it down. But given that huge buyout I'm guessing there was a verbal agreement before the firing.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by Longrifle28 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:38 pm

Awesome motivational tool, even though it's UNC and we should want to mop the field with their a$$es next year. Glad it worked out this way. Scott is too good of a person for that craphole. To me this shows they don't want to build a program, they want instant gratification. There will be plenty of bagmen and fake classes to boot.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by Gonzo » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:54 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:10 pm
Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:11 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:38 pm
App has dodged a bullet today. I have to say, it is amusing that some people here are peeved that Satt was passed over. Sports fans, sheesh! Satt hired agent Jimmy Sexton last year, and that wasn't to help keep his kids in Watauga County Schools. The carousel has just begun to spin, so hold on.
Lol do you really think you’re telling any of us something that we don’t already know? There’s guys on message boards in every fan base who thinks their up and comer will stay forever, the majority of this fan base knows that isn’t the case here unless Satts performance really falls off a cliff. I will say it’s always better to have your HC in talks of being poached by a P5 than being fired, sign of a healthy G5 program. But yeah thanks for the heads up.
Lol also who's upset he's getting "passed over"? Nobody. Pass over our perinneal 10 win coach? Pass over our perinneal conference championship winner? Pass over the first head coach to get us ranked? Yes please.
I read this forum WAY too much and follow anyone whose anyone on App twitter and I haven't seen a single App fan "peeved that Satt was passed over."

I have seen more than a few UNCC fans speculating that they actually have a shot of hiring Satterfield away from us themselves. :lol:

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:13 pm

postalapp90 wrote:
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Satterfield said he was not contacted by UNC on the sun belt teleconference.
Doesn’t mean his agent was not contacted.

I heard one of the UNC insiders on WFNZ this afternoon say that Satterfield was not chosen because of the similarities to Fedora coming from Southern Miss. I claim BS as Fedora had only one strong year at an established SM (2/4 in Bowls) versus Satterfield who took an FCS transitioned team to one of the better G5 programs in the country (3/3 in bowls).
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:00 pm

biggie wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:54 pm
Hate to look forward, but if he's here next year and we go undefeated with 2 "P5" wins...
He will be here for three more years. At least.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by fjblair » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:50 pm

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Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:44 pm
Per IC (take it for what it's worth), top 3 choices were Fleck, Satterfield and Mack Brown. Fleck wanted too much money and the Rams Club wouldn't get behind Satterfield for lack of experience. Per PP and their connections(take it for what it's worth), UNC got turned down by both Fleck and Satterfield, Brown was their 3rd choice. All agree that the decision was made months ago, however. Although I think it would have been the wrong decision, I really hope they chose to pass on Satterfield. Satterfield strikes me as the guy that would stay one more year just to make them pay.
I have to believe that the bit about the Rams Club is true. They are delusional, and refuse to accept the fact that the game of football has long since passed them by. So they hire the dinosaur to lead them out of the P5 cellar.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:14 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:13 pm
postalapp90 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:35 pm
Satterfield said he was not contacted by UNC on the sun belt teleconference.
Doesn’t mean his agent was not contacted.

I heard one of the UNC insiders on WFNZ this afternoon say that Satterfield was not chosen because of the similarities to Fedora coming from Southern Miss. I claim BS as Fedora had only one strong year at an established SM (2/4 in Bowls) versus Satterfield who took an FCS transitioned team to one of the better G5 programs in the country (3/3 in bowls).
But the commonality is the G5 background. Scott has never coached at the P5 level. That might give some pause.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:17 pm

UNC, Louisville, SMU, Boston College (basketball particularly) and many others have fallen from the ranks of the powerful over the past few decades. And all because of poor decisions. Note, Missouri lately, in something that had little to do with athletics.

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by GoBoone » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:28 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:00 pm
biggie wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:54 pm
Hate to look forward, but if he's here next year and we go undefeated with 2 "P5" wins...
He will be here for three more years. At least.
Hoping you’re right on this one!

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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:37 pm

Who cares how stubborn/stupid CHeat is? It’s our gain. Both immediately and down the road.
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