Tony Petersen stats at previous jobs

[AppStateNews]

How about the inside run called on 3rd and 8 before half after burning all our timeouts to get the ball back!

And the A gap run on 1st and then the screen on 2nd and 10?!?!?!?! Makes zero sense. The screen is fine on first down.. but, if you run up the middle on first, you're clearly ok with running the clock/letting them use their TOs. SO DON'T THROW THE SCREEN ON SECOND!

Bad news - Clark said Petersen is a heck of a coordinator in his press conference tonight. Have a bad feeling Petersen stays

[The Rock]

How about the inside run called on 3rd and 8 before half after burning all our timeouts to get the ball back!

And the A gap run on 1st and then the screen on 2nd and 10?!?!?!?! Makes zero sense. The screen is fine on first down.. but, if you run up the middle on first, you're clearly ok with running the clock/letting them use their TOs. SO DON'T THROW THE SCREEN ON SECOND!

Bad news - Clark said Petersen is a heck of a coordinator in his press conference tonight. Have a bad feeling Petersen stays

Of course he stays. Clark isn’t firing his first year coordinator after losing 3 games to top 25 teams with 2 losses amongst them.
We can say next man up all we want, and that’s true to an extent, but there is a reason the first man up is the first man up. They are better. You can only have so many next men up, before it starts showing. Without Sutton, hennigan is the next target, then Virgil, so without the 3 of them, that leaves willams as the only experienced WR.
Pearson is the only TE that truly belongs on the field. He was hurt and that left Crosby/evans next up who both were hurt for a big part of the season. How many times did a TE drop a pass or whiff on a block that led to a sack or rushed throw by Zac. We can develop our backups and have them as ready to play as possible, but if you think there isn’t a talent gap between Henry Pearson and mike evans or Miller Gibbs, you are fooling yourself. No disrespect to those guys, but there is a reason they are walk-ons. Sometimes you can’t simply coach up the backups to the same level of play. When there is multiple losses at one position, there will be drop off. I think our TE play was a huge part of our offensive struggles on both the passing and running games.
We have been extremely fortunate at the RB spot to have so many capable players to cover for losses, but at a G5 level, you aren’t going to have starter quality backups 3 deep at every position.
I think the next 2 years or so will be the tell of the tape for Peterson. With pretty much a wholesale change in offensive personnel, he has the opportunity to put his mark on the offense and he will have to own it, good or bad.

[App91]

If our Coaches listen to posters on this Board, we would definitely be in trouble!

Couldn't agree with TheAppalachianState more

Let's do this: take Marabel & White (RBs) and Likely, Heiligh and Brown (WRs/TE) out of Chickens line-up and don't you think we would have a better chance to win. That's the situation we've been in for several games. Hope Petersen is back for two reasons: #1- chance to prove what he can do with a healthy roster and #2- to cause some of you to have a year long bitch fest!!! LMAO!!!

Scanned the interwebs and i am pretty sure we are the only team in cfb with injuries, opt outs and covid stoppages. Good teams have players ready to step up and good coaches prepare and put kids in situations to be successful. LMFAO!

You're right but CCU is a completely different team without those guys. So are we without ours.

Give up, excuse mentality. Gonna tell my sales boss, sorry, couldnt make my quota had too many people who couldnt buy. Unemployment line!

[The Rock]

Couldn't agree with TheAppalachianState more

Let's do this: take Marabel & White (RBs) and Likely, Heiligh and Brown (WRs/TE) out of Chickens line-up and don't you think we would have a better chance to win. That's the situation we've been in for several games. Hope Petersen is back for two reasons: #1- chance to prove what he can do with a healthy roster and #2- to cause some of you to have a year long bitch fest!!! LMAO!!!

Scanned the interwebs and i am pretty sure we are the only team in cfb with injuries, opt outs and covid stoppages. Good teams have players ready to step up and good coaches prepare and put kids in situations to be successful. LMFAO!

You're right but CCU is a completely different team without those guys. So are we without ours.

Give up, excuse mentality. Gonna tell my sales boss, sorry, couldnt make my quota had too many people who couldnt buy. Unemployment line!

Wouldn’t a better comparison be more like too many salesmen out to meet quota?

[Yosef10]

How about the inside run called on 3rd and 8 before half after burning all our timeouts to get the ball back!

And the A gap run on 1st and then the screen on 2nd and 10?!?!?!?! Makes zero sense. The screen is fine on first down.. but, if you run up the middle on first, you're clearly ok with running the clock/letting them use their TOs. SO DON'T THROW THE SCREEN ON SECOND!

Bad news - Clark said Petersen is a heck of a coordinator in his press conference tonight. Have a bad feeling Petersen stays

Of course he stays. Clark isn’t firing his first year coordinator after losing 3 games to top 25 teams with 2 losses amongst them.
We can say next man up all we want, and that’s true to an extent, but there is a reason the first man up is the first man up. They are better. You can only have so many next men up, before it starts showing. Without Sutton, hennigan is the next target, then Virgil, so without the 3 of them, that leaves willams as the only experienced WR.
Pearson is the only TE that truly belongs on the field. He was hurt and that left Crosby/evans next up who both were hurt for a big part of the season. How many times did a TE drop a pass or whiff on a block that led to a sack or rushed throw by Zac. We can develop our backups and have them as ready to play as possible, but if you think there isn’t a talent gap between Henry Pearson and mike evans or Miller Gibbs, you are fooling yourself. No disrespect to those guys, but there is a reason they are walk-ons. Sometimes you can’t simply coach up the backups to the same level of play. When there is multiple losses at one position, there will be drop off. I think our TE play was a huge part of our offensive struggles on both the passing and running games.
We have been extremely fortunate at the RB spot to have so many capable players to cover for losses, but at a G5 level, you aren’t going to have starter quality backups 3 deep at every position.
I think the next 2 years or so will be the tell of the tape for Peterson. With pretty much a wholesale change in offensive personnel, he has the opportunity to put his mark on the offense and he will have to own it, good or bad.

I get what you’re saying, and 99.9999% chance he stays. But you have to look at him in totality. He had his play calling duties stripped at La Tech. Then called the offense for ECU for 2 years in what is arguably their worst stretch ever, then has his play calling duties stripped again the 3rd year at ECU. Why was this Clark’s hire? Why should I believe the problems I saw at ECU (red zone scoring and turnovers) are going to disappear when that was exactly what haunted our offense this year?

[The Rock]

How about the inside run called on 3rd and 8 before half after burning all our timeouts to get the ball back!

And the A gap run on 1st and then the screen on 2nd and 10?!?!?!?! Makes zero sense. The screen is fine on first down.. but, if you run up the middle on first, you're clearly ok with running the clock/letting them use their TOs. SO DON'T THROW THE SCREEN ON SECOND!

Bad news - Clark said Petersen is a heck of a coordinator in his press conference tonight. Have a bad feeling Petersen stays

Of course he stays. Clark isn’t firing his first year coordinator after losing 3 games to top 25 teams with 2 losses amongst them.
We can say next man up all we want, and that’s true to an extent, but there is a reason the first man up is the first man up. They are better. You can only have so many next men up, before it starts showing. Without Sutton, hennigan is the next target, then Virgil, so without the 3 of them, that leaves willams as the only experienced WR.
Pearson is the only TE that truly belongs on the field. He was hurt and that left Crosby/evans next up who both were hurt for a big part of the season. How many times did a TE drop a pass or whiff on a block that led to a sack or rushed throw by Zac. We can develop our backups and have them as ready to play as possible, but if you think there isn’t a talent gap between Henry Pearson and mike evans or Miller Gibbs, you are fooling yourself. No disrespect to those guys, but there is a reason they are walk-ons. Sometimes you can’t simply coach up the backups to the same level of play. When there is multiple losses at one position, there will be drop off. I think our TE play was a huge part of our offensive struggles on both the passing and running games.
We have been extremely fortunate at the RB spot to have so many capable players to cover for losses, but at a G5 level, you aren’t going to have starter quality backups 3 deep at every position.
I think the next 2 years or so will be the tell of the tape for Peterson. With pretty much a wholesale change in offensive personnel, he has the opportunity to put his mark on the offense and he will have to own it, good or bad.

I get what you’re saying, and 99.9999% chance he stays. But you have to look at him in totality. He had his play calling duties stripped at La Tech. Then called the offense for ECU for 2 years in what is arguably their worst stretch ever, then has his play calling duties stripped again the 3rd year at ECU. Why was this Clark’s hire? Why should I believe the problems I saw at ECU (red zone scoring and turnovers) are going to disappear when that was exactly what haunted our offense this year?

Fair points. I’m not saying he is going to be the right guy, and I shared those same concerns when he was hired, and still do. I’m just saying not sure all our struggles this year can be attributed to him, when you look at all the BS that has surrounded this season.
Why is this Clark’s hire? Because Garrett Riley (his first choice) got hired by another school, and who knows who else was was available/interested at our price point.

[AppDub]

No way after barely beating a rival like Ga. Southern with a third string quarterback running the show does Clark make any changes with his mediocre OC. Hoping at least some changes come in terms of play calling at least as red zone offense has got to get better or next year looks much the same.

[NavyApp]

[TheAppalachianState]

Clark should 100% be looking for a new OC. We have a ton of freshmen coming in and at key positions. Do we really want to goof up all of our freshmen with a cruddy OC and then start a rebuild process years down the road? I’d rather ride the wave while we are still on it before we totally fall off the bandwagon. Sorry to be pessimistic after a win, but I’m calling it like I see it. Remove TP

[AppStateNews]

The good news is the high donors also want Petersen out. Bad news is Clark doesn't. I'm willing to trust Clark though!

[Yosef84]

I have zero inside knowledge about what Clark wants or doesn't want. That said, I seriously doubt that we would know it if he did want TP gone. I don't believe it is in Coach Clark's nature to throw a staff member under the public bus. He has more class than that.

I can't say I've been thrilled with TP in terms of play calls this season. I have also speculated about a couple of other issues in private, but I'm not one to post outright speculation on here at the expense of an App coach. Bottom line is that only know the public side of our performance issues and there might be more to it than any of us know.

I do think Clark has two choices (great over simplification no doubt). If the "wheel"(TP) isn't working properly, he can either replace the wheel or fix the wheel. Both are valid approaches. I trust Clark to make the right decision since he DOES have all the information and is in a much better position to know the true "root cause."

[PhillyApp1]

Clark needs to be careful about who he is dedicated too... TP can really tarnish a n opportunity.... btw, the defense IMHO has saved the offense this whole year..... praying for Clark to make the right choice.... And F the large donors who blackmail the coach and AD

[Yosef84]

Clark needs to be careful about who he is dedicated too... TP can really tarnish a n opportunity.... btw, the defense IMHO has saved the offense this whole year..... praying for Clark to make the right choice.... And F the large donors who blackmail the coach and AD

The bolded part above was true in some very key games last year as well! (ULx2, UNC, SC). Just sayin'

[yosef69]

If there’s even the slightest chance TP isn’t the guy, now is the time to move on. With all the seniors moving on, it’s best to get the new QB and offense a new OC now rather than in the middle of their career.

I don’t know who we would pick, but I do think the TP experiment is over. He’s mediocre, and that is me being polite.

[JMappfan5]

TP will be back next year. Hope this works out for all of us. In the meantime, it's quite entertaining reading all the whining and finger pointing. Merry Christmas...try to enjoy something...life is fleeting.

[NavyApp]

TP will be back next year. Hope this works out for all of us. In the meantime, it's quite entertaining reading all the whining and finger pointing. Merry Christmas...try to enjoy something...life is fleeting.

Merry Christmas to you too! You're right we should all take some time and enjoy something, anything. Thanks for that reminder! Today (and everyday) IS A GREAT DAY TO BE A MOUNTAINEER!

[AppStFan1]

The good news is the high donors also want Petersen out. Bad news is Clark doesn't. I'm willing to trust Clark though!

Boosters are very fickle and don't get paid to make those choices so it is not their job on the line. I will trust Clark for sure. I think Petersen is back and because of that I hope we go with one of our young QBs so 2022 won't be another new starter.

The question is what will be an acceptable record next year without big donors calling for major changes on offense? People need to expect a drop off since we will be young. I'm expecting 4-5 losses in the regular season.

[AppStFan1]

Clark needs to be careful about who he is dedicated too... TP can really tarnish a n opportunity.... btw, the defense IMHO has saved the offense this whole year..... praying for Clark to make the right choice.... And F the large donors who blackmail the coach and AD

The bolded part above was true in some very key games last year as well! (ULx2, UNC, SC). Just sayin'

Special teams saved us a couple times last year as well. I think many fans overlook the impact of special teams but they can totally swing a game in another direction. The Virgil return was huge for us yesterday.

[hapapp]

Special teams have actually been good this year when you look at all facets of ST play. Our kickoffs have been somewhat inconsistent but lately Casey has done a pretty good job (when he didn't kick it out of bounds). We have given up little to no yardage on punt returns and are at the top of the conference in kickoff coverage. Staton hasn't been great on FGs but he was solid yesterday.

I think two areas really pinpoint our reduction in offensive production. We are at the bottom of the conference in terms of red zone efficiency, where last year we were at the top. The other glaring stat change is turnover margin. Last year we were something like +15, this year we are (thanks to yesterday) now at 0. Our loss at Coastal exemplifies this issue. Play calling could be blamed for the red zone problems but turnovers are more execution than play calling.

[AppState89]

Watched the majority of games during Tony’s time at ECU. It’s a weird year so I’m taking everything with a grain of salt, but his issues at ECU certainly showed here in his first year. Redzone was a big problem this year, something like 109th in the country last time i checked. I think we were at least top 50 last year, and i think I’m being pretty generous with that number. ECU was awful in the redzone during his stint there. His offense at ECU often looked pretty good during the first drive of each game, when he had a week to prep, but things got derailed after when he had to adjust on the fly, which I think we saw here. It was also believed to be a pretty solid rumor that Montgomery stripped TP of play calling in that third year. Skip Holtz also stripped him of play calling at La Tech.

Clark said time and time again the offense was staying the same. To have what we had come back and s drop off like we did is concerning. Even before the injuries i never thought the offense looked right. Should have put up 50+ on Charlotte but sputter over and over. I’m not up in arms calling for his job, but it would make me feel better about Clark as the HMIC if he could recognize that TPs time has past.

I have one question. How many passes have we thrown to RBs this year? Remember the wheel routes we threw to RBs last year and the years past? We haven't hardly thrown to a RB at all this year. I think TP needs to move on. All my ECU friends laugh that we have him.