Not so worried thst we couldn’t attract really good candidates. However, we’ve been blessed with having basically the same coaching “family” or culture for what? Over 30 years between Moore and Satterfield? The the two are different, of course in many ways but satterfield hasent strayed from the basic philosophy thats worked for us for so long and given us a distinct identity. I would worry about how that would change if we brought in someone from outside that culture.
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Knoxville newpaper article since Dorean turned them lists the top eight candidates...Satt not in the mix. This and $4.25 will get you a mocha at *bucks.
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I can't think of a single head coach at State, like in the last 4 decades, that ended his tenure well or where he moved on to other great positions. They all end up as like assistant coaches elsewhere...perhaps Satt can build a program there and have sustained success. I stand by my initial statement that I hope Satt gets a better opportunity than the State position, based strictly on what I've seen with their program over the years.MtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:19 pmI'm no looking for a fight. I just found it baffling that you and some others can say with a serious face that our coach wouldn't love to coach at in-state ACC school that has a demonstrated commitment to football (unlike Duke UNC) and that could allow you, recruiting wise, to compete most years with the Clemsons and FSUs of the world. Im not "imagining" things you said. You said Satt would wait for something "better" than State because "theyre more of a basketball school." I live in Raleigh. I pointed out that there were plenty reasons a competitor like Satt who wants to compete at the highest levels of CFB would want to go, facilities, recruiting, assistant $ etc instead of waiting for something "better," a position that, while not Alabama, Im still not sure what you believe to be. He was ready to go North to middling AAC team in Cincy, but State is out of the question.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20 pmYou're just looking for a fight as you're imagining things I've said. For example, where did I say or imply that the following weren't true: "States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App" or this " bball school in the since UNC is" and I do not have illusions that "he will stay in Boone forever." I merely said that Satt can do better than the NC State job and I hope he holds out for that. I grew up in NC and one of my brothers graduated from State and was there during there first basketball national championship. They've since won a 2nd national championship in basketballMtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:53 amIf Doeren goes its because of money, nothing else (which people seem to think doesn't motivate normal people to make career choices around here). Beyond Satt's potential salary- States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App as much as I hate to say that. Im not a state fan but they are not a bball school in the since UNC is. They put them in at the Carter. State is a "better job" for someone like Satt. This isn't a Cincy, Vandy, Kansas, etc. Its an ACC school that regularly competes with Clemson and FSU. If you don't think that appeals to someone who wants to coach big time CFB then you really do think he will stay in Boone forever and no one will convince you otherwise.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 amState lost worst to Wake than we did, also they are not even in the top 25 now. You can say what you did about almost any P5 school...IF they win their games they're in the CFP...of course but State didn't and don't ever. This year was State's best in what 20+ years, or is it 25+ years? If State was such a great place to coach why is Doeren even looking at TN? Again, just my perception and what I know and hear about their fan base and the fact that they're more of a basketball school being part of the old "big 4 ACC NC" schools. Just my lowly opinion. BTW, there are lots of great teams to coach at that are between NC State and Alabama. I never, and I don't recall any MMB poster saying or implying that Satt should hold out for Alabama. Satt may love the challenge of coaching in Raleigh and the extra money in his bank account, and if he goes there I will remain a fan of his until he happens to play App, at which time I'll be pulling against him.MtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:21 am
You do realize that at the midway point of this season NC State was a darkhorse for the CFP? If they win the ACC with one loss (even thought that loss wouldve been to USC) they are in. How is that not a good job for any coach not already in a P5 conference? "Something better?" So hes not leaving unless Saban retires? I think people really have their head in the sand about what Satt would, or should, move on for.
but you're correct that they are not on the level of basketball as UNC which is not what I said or implied. I don't agree with your apparently high opinion of their football program, I'd rather see Satt go to a better program with a higher likelihood of success. A bad career move, especially for money, can set you back and derail your career. Besides Doeren's potential opportunity at TN, what other NC State coaches have spring boarded from Raleigh into great positions? Perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.
I hate NC State. It annoys me that I had to defend the idea that they are an appealing football job for G5 coaches, especially since its all moot and Doeren is staying. I will say I agree with you that I hope Satt holds out.
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If I made 700K a year, I don't need a raise, yeah, still nice to think about but how much is enough? Now for someone making 40K a year its a BIG deal.
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David Glenn said on his radio show today that Coach Sat is now in the mix for the Tennessee job.
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Don't worry Tennessee fans won't allow it. They will revolt again and find his personal cell phone number.
Whether you all like to hear it or not, if he gets the number he is looking for he is gone.
Whether you all like to hear it or not, if he gets the number he is looking for he is gone.
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And if you’re up for some pure cringe, there’s an App person over on that board in that thread, arguing with Vol fans about why they should WANT Satterfield.
Honestly cannot understand what is going through people’s heads sometimes.
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If Satterfield was 10-1 instead of 7-4 -- he would be in the mix for Tenn job.
You get fired at some SEC schools for only winning 7-8 games a year!
You get fired at some SEC schools for only winning 7-8 games a year!
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Likely true. If you want to impress people outside the Sun Belt, you have to beat people outside the Sun Belt.
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We are spoiled now in my opinion with Coach Moore and Coach Satterfield being our most recent 2 coaches and spanning back to 1989. I know I am getting old, but it felt like a revolving door back in the 1980s to me after Coach Brakefield with Mike Working, Mack Brown (1 Year), and Sparky Woods all coming thru the coaching position. Coach Satterfield will eventually leave for a bigger program I bet, but I hope he stays for a while longer and keeps up the good work.
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Lou Holtz and Monte Kiffin come to mind.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:58 pmI can't think of a single head coach at State, like in the last 4 decades, that ended his tenure well or where he moved on to other great positions. They all end up as like assistant coaches elsewhere...perhaps Satt can build a program there and have sustained success. I stand by my initial statement that I hope Satt gets a better opportunity than the State position, based strictly on what I've seen with their program over the years.MtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:19 pmI'm no looking for a fight. I just found it baffling that you and some others can say with a serious face that our coach wouldn't love to coach at in-state ACC school that has a demonstrated commitment to football (unlike Duke UNC) and that could allow you, recruiting wise, to compete most years with the Clemsons and FSUs of the world. Im not "imagining" things you said. You said Satt would wait for something "better" than State because "theyre more of a basketball school." I live in Raleigh. I pointed out that there were plenty reasons a competitor like Satt who wants to compete at the highest levels of CFB would want to go, facilities, recruiting, assistant $ etc instead of waiting for something "better," a position that, while not Alabama, Im still not sure what you believe to be. He was ready to go North to middling AAC team in Cincy, but State is out of the question.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20 pmYou're just looking for a fight as you're imagining things I've said. For example, where did I say or imply that the following weren't true: "States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App" or this " bball school in the since UNC is" and I do not have illusions that "he will stay in Boone forever." I merely said that Satt can do better than the NC State job and I hope he holds out for that. I grew up in NC and one of my brothers graduated from State and was there during there first basketball national championship. They've since won a 2nd national championship in basketballMtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:53 amIf Doeren goes its because of money, nothing else (which people seem to think doesn't motivate normal people to make career choices around here). Beyond Satt's potential salary- States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App as much as I hate to say that. Im not a state fan but they are not a bball school in the since UNC is. They put them in at the Carter. State is a "better job" for someone like Satt. This isn't a Cincy, Vandy, Kansas, etc. Its an ACC school that regularly competes with Clemson and FSU. If you don't think that appeals to someone who wants to coach big time CFB then you really do think he will stay in Boone forever and no one will convince you otherwise.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 am
State lost worst to Wake than we did, also they are not even in the top 25 now. You can say what you did about almost any P5 school...IF they win their games they're in the CFP...of course but State didn't and don't ever. This year was State's best in what 20+ years, or is it 25+ years? If State was such a great place to coach why is Doeren even looking at TN? Again, just my perception and what I know and hear about their fan base and the fact that they're more of a basketball school being part of the old "big 4 ACC NC" schools. Just my lowly opinion. BTW, there are lots of great teams to coach at that are between NC State and Alabama. I never, and I don't recall any MMB poster saying or implying that Satt should hold out for Alabama. Satt may love the challenge of coaching in Raleigh and the extra money in his bank account, and if he goes there I will remain a fan of his until he happens to play App, at which time I'll be pulling against him.
but you're correct that they are not on the level of basketball as UNC which is not what I said or implied. I don't agree with your apparently high opinion of their football program, I'd rather see Satt go to a better program with a higher likelihood of success. A bad career move, especially for money, can set you back and derail your career. Besides Doeren's potential opportunity at TN, what other NC State coaches have spring boarded from Raleigh into great positions? Perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.
I hate NC State. It annoys me that I had to defend the idea that they are an appealing football job for G5 coaches, especially since its all moot and Doeren is staying. I will say I agree with you that I hope Satt holds out.
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He would be my third call behind Tim Horton and Stacy Searels. I think there's a genuine chance that those two guys would stick around for 10 years and end their career here. Mike Houston is more likely to bolt after three seasons and there's something to be said for stability.

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It is unfortunately reality, but a G5 that becomes known as a hotbed for up and coming coaches can be a good thing for the school in being know as the place to do well and then get the big job. It worked well for WKU as a young G5 program.TheMackAttack wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:43 pmHe would be my third call behind Tim Horton and Stacy Searels. I think there's a genuine chance that those two guys would stick around for 10 years and end their career here. Mike Houston is more likely to bolt after three seasons and there's something to be said for stability.
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When and if Satt leaves, Mike Houston would definitely be first on my list but he may be in the G5 or better by the time Satt does eventually move on.
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We did this last year......keep all the comments for next year. As my "favorite" coach said " It is what it is"
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A decade is 10 years, so 4 decades = 40 years. Lou Holtz left in 1975, which was 42 years ago so that would be outside of my 4 decades comment. As for Kiffin, he had a losing record as a lousy head coach in Raleigh and then bounced around the NFL as an assistant and although he did hold some decent OC & DC positions for a while, he's currently an assistant at FAU. Sorry, but I just don't see NC State as a coaching cradle or admire the program the way some on this board apparently do.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:40 pmLou Holtz and Monte Kiffin come to mind.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:58 pmI can't think of a single head coach at State, like in the last 4 decades, that ended his tenure well or where he moved on to other great positions. They all end up as like assistant coaches elsewhere...perhaps Satt can build a program there and have sustained success. I stand by my initial statement that I hope Satt gets a better opportunity than the State position, based strictly on what I've seen with their program over the years.MtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:19 pmI'm no looking for a fight. I just found it baffling that you and some others can say with a serious face that our coach wouldn't love to coach at in-state ACC school that has a demonstrated commitment to football (unlike Duke UNC) and that could allow you, recruiting wise, to compete most years with the Clemsons and FSUs of the world. Im not "imagining" things you said. You said Satt would wait for something "better" than State because "theyre more of a basketball school." I live in Raleigh. I pointed out that there were plenty reasons a competitor like Satt who wants to compete at the highest levels of CFB would want to go, facilities, recruiting, assistant $ etc instead of waiting for something "better," a position that, while not Alabama, Im still not sure what you believe to be. He was ready to go North to middling AAC team in Cincy, but State is out of the question.Rick83 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20 pmYou're just looking for a fight as you're imagining things I've said. For example, where did I say or imply that the following weren't true: "States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App" or this " bball school in the since UNC is" and I do not have illusions that "he will stay in Boone forever." I merely said that Satt can do better than the NC State job and I hope he holds out for that. I grew up in NC and one of my brothers graduated from State and was there during there first basketball national championship. They've since won a 2nd national championship in basketballMtnMan09 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:53 am
If Doeren goes its because of money, nothing else (which people seem to think doesn't motivate normal people to make career choices around here). Beyond Satt's potential salary- States facilities, recruitment opportunities, assistants pool $, stadium, and # of fans in the stands are greater than they are at App as much as I hate to say that. Im not a state fan but they are not a bball school in the since UNC is. They put them in at the Carter. State is a "better job" for someone like Satt. This isn't a Cincy, Vandy, Kansas, etc. Its an ACC school that regularly competes with Clemson and FSU. If you don't think that appeals to someone who wants to coach big time CFB then you really do think he will stay in Boone forever and no one will convince you otherwise.
but you're correct that they are not on the level of basketball as UNC which is not what I said or implied. I don't agree with your apparently high opinion of their football program, I'd rather see Satt go to a better program with a higher likelihood of success. A bad career move, especially for money, can set you back and derail your career. Besides Doeren's potential opportunity at TN, what other NC State coaches have spring boarded from Raleigh into great positions? Perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.
I hate NC State. It annoys me that I had to defend the idea that they are an appealing football job for G5 coaches, especially since its all moot and Doeren is staying. I will say I agree with you that I hope Satt holds out.
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With all of the openings out there, I would be stunned that he's not looking.