New Vision for The Rock

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:40 am

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EastHallApp wrote:One of the potential areas for that much-needed premium seating is the walkway behind the hill. If they put the scoreboard on the hill (rather than behind the walkway, for example), that would pretty much eliminate that option, as far as I can tell. Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding.

What on earth would be premium about being that far away from the field. The hill is bad enough but the walkway behind the hill would be some lousy seats. What really needs to happen is to bring in some heavy earth moving gear, get rid of the hill altogether and bowl in that end of the stadium, bringing the stands all the way to about 10 feet behind the end zone, and the hell with the track.
Premium seating in football stadiums isn't about proximity to the field. When was the last time you saw a luxury box in the front row?

Either keep the lawn and line the walkway with box seating/cafe tables or bowl it in (once demand warrants) and put luxury boxes around the top. Either way, I'd like to see the scoreboard above or behind where the concession stands are now.
I'm not paying $750/seat to sit that far away from the field in the endzone. Luxury boxes and club seats are typcially at the optimal sight lines in stadium i.e. panther stadium and our club seats are higher but great sight lines
Without doing any research, ODU and UNC are two I know of that seem to be doing well with end zone luxury seating.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by appstateeyedoc » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:21 am

Anybody know how much this is gonna cost? Or how much it cost to build the ones at Duke and Wake??

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by dubs21 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:22 am

$3 million+ is a very good guess based on Doug Gillin's comments, and the cost of Wake's board

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by bigCasu » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:23 am

appstateeyedoc wrote:Anybody know how much this is gonna cost? Or how much it cost to build the ones at Duke and Wake??
About 3 million.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by Saint3333 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:33 am

EastHallApp wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
AppinATL wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:One of the potential areas for that much-needed premium seating is the walkway behind the hill. If they put the scoreboard on the hill (rather than behind the walkway, for example), that would pretty much eliminate that option, as far as I can tell. Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding.

What on earth would be premium about being that far away from the field. The hill is bad enough but the walkway behind the hill would be some lousy seats. What really needs to happen is to bring in some heavy earth moving gear, get rid of the hill altogether and bowl in that end of the stadium, bringing the stands all the way to about 10 feet behind the end zone, and the hell with the track.
Premium seating in football stadiums isn't about proximity to the field. When was the last time you saw a luxury box in the front row?

Either keep the lawn and line the walkway with box seating/cafe tables or bowl it in (once demand warrants) and put luxury boxes around the top. Either way, I'd like to see the scoreboard above or behind where the concession stands are now.
I'm not paying $750/seat to sit that far away from the field in the endzone. Luxury boxes and club seats are typcially at the optimal sight lines in stadium i.e. panther stadium and our club seats are higher but great sight lines
Without doing any research, ODU and UNC are two I know of that seem to be doing well with end zone luxury seating.
Big difference in ODU's luxury seating location and putting luxury seating behind the hill as originally suggested. ODU's seats are 20 feet from the endzone. If we built a permanent lower level bleacher seating to connect the west and east sides and then put two sections of club seats over top of them that would work well (north endzone).

With the placement of the video board on the hill the topic of club seats in the south endzone is moot anyway.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by Dmanuhone » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:04 pm

so what happened to the link on goasu. can't find it now.
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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by kiddbrewer » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:38 am

Dmanuhone wrote:so what happened to the link on goasu. can't find it now.
Lasted only through Saturday, if I am remembering correctly.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:20 pm

I doubt that a new video board would cost $3 mil. My daughters' high school just installed one for $250k sound quality is very good.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by hapapp » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:03 pm

AppSt94 wrote:I doubt that a new video board would cost $3 mil. My daughters' high school just installed one for $250k sound quality is very good.
What are it's dimensions?

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by HkyMtneer » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:06 pm

$3 Mil. for just the board would be on the upper end by college standards. The board that was completed at Auburn last year was about $3.5 if I recall correctly. Numerous boards over the last 3/4 years have been completed in the $2.5 Mil. and up range at the FBS level. NFL boards can go much higher. The thing to remember is that when upgrading boards most schools upgrade the sound system to be compatible (as we're planning to do) and usually might seek to add ribbon boards, additional smaller corner screens or the like. To put the Auburn board in perspective the whole audio/video project that included the board was in the neighborhood of $14 or $15 Mil I do believe. Regardless, $3 Mil-ish for a audio/video project at our level should make for a pretty nice setup.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:42 pm

hapapp wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:I doubt that a new video board would cost $3 mil. My daughters' high school just installed one for $250k sound quality is very good.
What are it's dimensions?
I tried finding the dimensions of it online without much luck. I'm sure that it's not as big as what we would want and I honestly have no idea how these things are priced out, but I posted thinking that even at twice the size it shouldn't cost 12x as much.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by appchicago » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:03 pm

The video board that was recently installed (I guess it's been 4 or 5 years ago now) at Williams Brice Stadium at South Carolina is huge (36'x124'). The price tag they put on it was $6.5million. Even their old one, installed in 2006 and measuring 20' x 29' cost $1.2 million. (More on that here: http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/ ... 44902.html)

So $3m sounds in line with all that.

And if the numbers in this article are accurate, the dimensions discussed don't sound too crazy, relatively speaking. http://www.foxsports.com/southwest/list ... rds-081215

That article also quotes Wake's as being bigger than what was mentioned before.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by Rekdiver » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:45 pm

Spend the bucks to remove the track..I'll live withe the video board

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:28 am

AppSt94 wrote:
hapapp wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:I doubt that a new video board would cost $3 mil. My daughters' high school just installed one for $250k sound quality is very good.
What are it's dimensions?
I tried finding the dimensions of it online without much luck. I'm sure that it's not as big as what we would want and I honestly have no idea how these things are priced out, but I posted thinking that even at twice the size it shouldn't cost 12x as much.
I believe the new board is supposed to be 4x larger than our current board.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:29 am

The current board is 40 x 17 (680 sq ft) and Gillin said four times bigger, so 2,720 sq ft. That could be 68 x 40 or something like that.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by AppFan11 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:11 am

bigC is right. That is the number that DG has given for the new video board and upgraded stadium speakers.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by dubs21 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:43 am

Guys, no point in arguing what I or Big C said. It comes from Gillin and/or based on market conditions/inflation.

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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by appgrouch » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:28 am

The other thing that factors into that figure is the cost for all new footers, support structures, and utilities. Even if the new board was put where the old board is, there is going to be at least 3x the weight that will need to be supported and anyone that has had to dig footers in the side of a hill in the mountains will tell you that ain't cheap. It will also will need a good bit more power than the current board.

Whatever the cost of the new board/system is, I could easily see us needing to spend 25% of the price just to get the thing up and running.
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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by Dmanuhone » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:51 am

anybody see the final total for donations?
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Re: New Vision for The Rock

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:04 am

BTW, I had never actually seen the view from the hill or track before this weekend, but we walk around the walkway Saturday, and I was actually surprised at how good the view of the field was from back there. Now more convinced it would be a great area for premium seats now, even better if we can lose the track and move the hill closer.

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