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Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:48 pm

We're going bowling again! Think about that a moment in clarity.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:02 pm

Hap in form you are correct, however the bowls will work with the conference to pick the best situation for both parties (the conference and bowl committees). The Camellia may still believe App is the better fit and pick us over a 6-6 USA though.

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Unread post by hapapp » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:47 am

Saint3333 wrote:Hap in form you are correct, however the bowls will work with the conference to pick the best situation for both parties (the conference and bowl committees). The Camellia may still believe App is the better fit and pick us over a 6-6 USA though.
I know I'm trying to apply logic where I shouldn't. I was just basing it off the fact that the Camellia Bowl picks third and USA absent winning their next two is not supposed to be chosen until all eligible teams have been assigned. Of course, there really is no guarantee that really applies here.

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Unread post by Goapps15 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:34 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:Montgomery vs a 6-6 MAC team would be brutal. Even Ohio could barely move the ball vs Akron the other night. Unless it's Toledo or WMU playing the MAC isn't good. Their fans don't travel at all.
True, but wouldn't playing a 6-6 AAC on a sports sub channel be worse? With the exception of being in Florida...
Honestly CBS College Sports has better announcers than what espn will send. They also will not focus on other games for the majority of the game either.

Plus 6-6 AAC team would be either UCF or Smu. Both of which beat Houston this year.

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Unread post by Goapps15 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:38 am

Unless you are playing Toledo or Western Michigan the other teams would be underwhelming from the MAC.

1. Miami Ohio was 0-6 and beat up on the worst division in college football per Sagarin.
2. Eastern Michigan might be the best team, but they wouldn't bring more than 1K people.
3. Central Michigan has fallen apart. They wouldn't be bowl eligible without an officiating error.
4. Ohio looked really underwhelming Tuesday vs Akron. They only scored 9 against that defense.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:09 am

I've been one to voice disappointment over the possibility of playing a crappy opponent but as the final week approaches one annual recurring thought comes to mind. It would really suck to be 4-7 and having a final game to get to 5-7 and be left out in mid to late December. I also hope we don't reach the point of being 5-6 and hope to win so that we are barely Bowl eligible.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:19 am

Goapps15 wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:Montgomery vs a 6-6 MAC team would be brutal. Even Ohio could barely move the ball vs Akron the other night. Unless it's Toledo or WMU playing the MAC isn't good. Their fans don't travel at all.
True, but wouldn't playing a 6-6 AAC on a sports sub channel be worse? With the exception of being in Florida...
Honestly CBS College Sports has better announcers than what espn will send. They also will not focus on other games for the majority of the game either.

Plus 6-6 AAC team would be either UCF or Smu. Both of which beat Houston this year.
I am not in disagreement with you here but many feel being on ESPN gets APP broadcast worldwide and the volume of watchers will swamp what is on CBSCS - I don't like ESPN talking about every other bowl either but many, many people don't get CBSCS and of course it won't be on ESPN3 either - Don't believe UCF beat Houston???
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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:42 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:Montgomery vs a 6-6 MAC team would be brutal. Even Ohio could barely move the ball vs Akron the other night. Unless it's Toledo or WMU playing the MAC isn't good. Their fans don't travel at all.
True, but wouldn't playing a 6-6 AAC on a sports sub channel be worse? With the exception of being in Florida...
Honestly CBS College Sports has better announcers than what espn will send. They also will not focus on other games for the majority of the game either.

Plus 6-6 AAC team would be either UCF or Smu. Both of which beat Houston this year.
I am not in disagreement with you here but many feel being on ESPN gets APP broadcast worldwide and the volume of watchers will swamp what is on CBSCS - I don't like ESPN talking about every other bowl either but many, many people don't get CBSCS and of course it won't be on ESPN3 either - Don't believe UCF beat Houston???
Houston lost to SMU and Navy

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Unread post by Seattleapp » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:53 am

The Cure bowl may be on an inferior channel, but if we play Eastern Michigan we are gonna wish it was on an inferior channel, as there will be tumbleweed blowing through the stands.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:10 pm

Personally, since I will be sitting in my den and watching, I am hoping for the best match-up - I get CBSCS and all ESPNs so that makes no difference --- best match-up and best scenario for those who will be attending in person ---
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Unread post by Goapps15 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:27 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:Montgomery vs a 6-6 MAC team would be brutal. Even Ohio could barely move the ball vs Akron the other night. Unless it's Toledo or WMU playing the MAC isn't good. Their fans don't travel at all.
True, but wouldn't playing a 6-6 AAC on a sports sub channel be worse? With the exception of being in Florida...
Honestly CBS College Sports has better announcers than what espn will send. They also will not focus on other games for the majority of the game either.

Plus 6-6 AAC team would be either UCF or Smu. Both of which beat Houston this year.
I am not in disagreement with you here but many feel being on ESPN gets APP broadcast worldwide and the volume of watchers will swamp what is on CBSCS - I don't like ESPN talking about every other bowl either but many, many people don't get CBSCS and of course it won't be on ESPN3 either - Don't believe UCF beat Houston???
Houston lost to SMU and Navy
My apologies UCF had a huge halftime lead and choked. Still played them tight.

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Unread post by bh2oson » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:27 pm

Another bowl scenario. I was reading on the Sun Belt board that there may be a chance that New Orleans takes Troy with 10 wins. First bowl game in a while for the Trojans and they could sell some tickets. If W. Mich beats Toledo, Toledo goes to Dollar General. Dollar General won't do a rematch of Arkansas State and Toledo so they choose App. Arkansas State then goes to Camellia. This will probably all change by the end of Saturday. :)

I think 4 of the 5 bowls are in play for App, hopefully it all clears up after this weekend.

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Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:27 pm

We aren't going to Arizona. Other than that, it's as clear as mud.
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Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:34 pm

If Idaho wins next week they are an 8 win team. Do they still end up in Arizona?

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Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:39 pm

appbio91 wrote:If Idaho wins next week they are an 8 win team. Do they still end up in Arizona?
They should. It's a good, sensible, vacation for their fans.
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Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:08 pm

I was thinking USA loss would bump them to last choice. w/o the waiver they would not qualify so I assumed Idaho might get Orlando (geography aside).

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:47 pm

appbio91 wrote:I was thinking USA loss would bump them to last choice. w/o the waiver they would not qualify so I assumed Idaho might get Orlando (geography aside).
ULL also likely to be eligible. Now, if they lose and USA wins, is it possible Idaho gets sent east based on USA not being eligible to be picked before any other eligible team? That might be what a strict reading of the waiver would suggest, but it sure wouldn't be doing Idaho any favors.

Bottom line is that the selection order isn't hard and fast, and the choices are made with input from the schools and conference. Hard to imagine Idaho not going to Arizona.

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Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:05 pm

Yep, I had written them off. That really complicates things. So if USA and ULL both win next week does USA get left out.

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Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:28 pm

appbio91 wrote:Yep, I had written them off. That really complicates things. So if USA and ULL both win next week does USA get left out.
No, it would just mean only 3 5-7 teams instead of 4 would be going bowling. USA would probably go to Birmingham or one of the other 3rd tier bowls that won't have either of their contract tie-ins eligible.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:47 am

AppinVA wrote:We aren't going to Arizona. Other than that, it's as clear as mud.
There's a reason App isn't selling potential tickets to the Arizona Bowl. If there was a 1% chance of going, App would sell tickets to it.

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