Wofford loss is on Satterfield

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by App91 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:41 pm

You are not picking on JJ at all. Just truth, he can manage a game if he is not pressured. With pressure comes bad decisions and bad throws. Now, i know that is normal, every defense wants to press the QB for the same reason. But this is truly his "area of opportunity". He cannot run well at all. One thing I noticed is he does not know how to not take a solid hit. Every time he gets hit, it is square. Richie and AE never took a solid hit unless they were delivering. Last thing is he has GOT to go thru progressions and not lock on one receiver. This is usually where his pick comes from, but also there is missed opportunity. Solid C, not great, but not terrible.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by moehler » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:42 pm

JJ locks in on receivers, probably does it 4 or 5 times a game, and doesn't go thru his progressions, but, in his defense, when your line only gives you a couple of seconds, you got to get rid of it quick. Lot of blame to go around, but I look mainly at the OL, just too many injuries, too young, and frankly, the talent isn't there. I question Alex Acey, the walkon, starting for the last 2 years, I was wrong, everytime this kid is in the lineup the unit plays so much better, he may be small but this kid can play, but, if he doesn't put on some weight and size, in the offseason, he is never going to make it thru a season.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:09 pm

bcoach wrote:You are not picking on JJ at all. I believe you give him more credit than I do. I think he is ok but never had even considered him having a chance in the NFL. SS is right on with decision making. JJ just takes to long and makes some bad decisions. With that said the OL does not exactly give him a ton of time.
The point I was trying to make is that JJ has the measurables of today's NFL QB. We can't discount the fact that he is a Junior, making his 12th start. (?) He will only get better and his O'line does not help but when your in the shotgun and it is a timing offense, how much time do you need?

That is a rhetorical question asked by someone who has never played his position. My point is that if JJ's maturation affords him an NFL opportunity, there will be those on this board that will blame SS for not using him right.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:53 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
bcoach wrote:You are not picking on JJ at all. I believe you give him more credit than I do. I think he is ok but never had even considered him having a chance in the NFL. SS is right on with decision making. JJ just takes to long and makes some bad decisions. With that said the OL does not exactly give him a ton of time.
The point I was trying to make is that JJ has the measurables of today's NFL QB. We can't discount the fact that he is a Junior, making his 12th start. (?) He will only get better and his O'line does not help but when your in the shotgun and it is a timing offense, how much time do you need?

That is a rhetorical question asked by someone who has never played his position. My point is that if JJ's maturation affords him an NFL opportunity, there will be those on this board that will blame SS for not using him right.
I understand. There are those on this board that think our only measure of success is getting guys to the pros. If they don't make it the coaches are to blame. There are those on here who think he is the best QB in the conference and I just don't see it.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by gaapp78 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:57 pm

AppSt94 wrote:I totally diagree with the blame being on SS. SS is playing with the hand that he was dealt. There are five QB's on our roster (JJ, Magloire, Bryant, Barnes, and Hallock (sp?). None of which were recruited by SS to run his offense. JJ may very well be ASU's very first NFL QB. He has the size, speed and arm strength to be an NFL QB. If so, that still doesn't change the fact that he may not be a good spread option QB. There were a few references by Brownie, during the game, that SS was in the booth next door clearly upset with JJ's decision making. The playcalling will be vanilla until the playcaller has confidence in the playmaker.

Disclaimer: Before I am labeled a troll for picking on JJ, that is not the case at all. I am merely pointing out that this offense looks like SS's offense at FIU because he did not have his QB.

Yeah SS doesnt totally have the players that he wants, but the system is pretty much the same it was when he left. And JJ, I think was recruited while SS was here, JJ was a senior in h.s. in SS last season so am sure satterfield was involved in recruiting him. The bottom line is the team has to execute better. they are still young and am sure they will continue to grow.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by AZAppGrad » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:06 pm

Geeezzz folks.....SS just returned home this year and he (along with the other new coaches...which I think are all really good hires) inherited a dysfunctional team. Last year there was lots of turmoil, many problems, and not much quality coaching. We have started the rebuilding process and will be much better next year. By the way.....contrary to some opinions....this season is not over. I am going to enjoy our victory over GS.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by AppinATL » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:28 pm

ASU2012 wrote:Ive been a long time lurker on ASU message boards but I can no longer hold my tongue after yesterdays performance.

What has happened to the SS that we used to know and love? The play calling yesterday (and quite frankly, all year outside of a few games) was absolutely atrocious and dumb. We drive all the way down the field, down 10 points, 6:00 left on the clock, AND WE RUN 3 STRAIGHT PLAYS IN THE RED ZONE. Was SS points shaving? That's all I can think of, nothing makes sense to me. And when did ASU become a team that takes ZERO shots down field. Did we look further than 15 yards one time last night? If so, I cant remember it happening.

I know SS is the coach in waiting, and I know he won us a lot of championships, but this season, we are losing games because of our OC, not winning them like in years past. He looks very similar to Chud down in Charlotte with the Panthers right now, incredibly predictable.

All that being said, GO APPS, beat GSU. I hope SS turns it around ASAP.
Really? It's on Satterfield somehow that our receiving corps suddenly went butterfingers? that JJ couldn't keep his receivers in bounds on sideline routes? Because if not for those two things, we score 40+ points and all you guys would be silent like you have been after all our wins this year. Seriously...there is something WRONG with you people.

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Re: Wofford loss is on Satterfield

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:49 pm

gaapp78 wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:I totally diagree with the blame being on SS. SS is playing with the hand that he was dealt. There are five QB's on our roster (JJ, Magloire, Bryant, Barnes, and Hallock (sp?). None of which were recruited by SS to run his offense. JJ may very well be ASU's very first NFL QB. He has the size, speed and arm strength to be an NFL QB. If so, that still doesn't change the fact that he may not be a good spread option QB. There were a few references by Brownie, during the game, that SS was in the booth next door clearly upset with JJ's decision making. The playcalling will be vanilla until the playcaller has confidence in the playmaker.

Disclaimer: Before I am labeled a troll for picking on JJ, that is not the case at all. I am merely pointing out that this offense looks like SS's offense at FIU because he did not have his QB.



Yeah SS doesnt totally have the players that he wants, but the system is pretty much the same it was when he left. And JJ, I think was recruited while SS was here, JJ was a senior in h.s. in SS last season so am sure satterfield was involved in recruiting him. The bottom line is the team has to execute better. they are still young and am sure they will continue to grow.
Your right. I said it during the game that we have some guys out there that probably are not ready to be out there. Attrition and injury have put a cloud on the immediate future of this team but the experiance that these young kids are gaining will be invaluable to our depth and stability in the long run. I imagine that every one of our coaches would tell you that despite the overall record that they are really enjoying coaching these young kids this year.

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