Recruiting, 2014

[JHG]

How many WR's has Temple put in the nFL recently?

That answer should lead him where to go....if not good luck to him...APP will be good with him and good without him....i hope he makes the right choice.

We have the same number of WRs in the NFL as App State--1.

Rod Streater: 60 receptions, 888 yards, 4 TDs
Brian Quick: 18 receptions, 302 yards, 2 TDs

Man, not sure I get the appeal of Temple. Farther from home, still non P5, one of the worst FBS programs in the country for decades. Pretty much the only selling point I could see is if you just really prefer to go to college in a big city. Or I guess if you like playing your home games in a mostly empty NFL stadium...

Excellent degree, brand new academic and athletic facilities, big school, big city with a lot of cultural and culinary offerings, four major sports teams, tons of internship and job opportunities if he does not make the NFL.

I went to college in philly. Love Big 5 basketball but Temple football is like high school in comparison. Temple is a city school in the projects of north philly and has a good student body and decent academics but playing football at Temple with Penn State and Rutgers in the Big 10 is B league ....I hope he sees how App is a Football town.

I would love to know where you went to school. Templetown is not in the projects. The Badlands are several miles away from campus. A lot of new places are popping up on campus and near campus. Stephen Starr and Marc Vetri didn't open restaurants down the street from Temple because it's in the slums. I'm guessing like many in the city and outside the city, you have not been on campus in quite a while. We just opened the largest and most expensive dorm in the country. Our football facility recently underwent a $10M expansion. We opened up a $60M athletic facility than is used for campus recreation and houses our men's and women's basketball practice facilities, which are used by all visiting NBA teams in town to play the Sixers. We have an $140M science center opening this summer. We just announced an $190M library.

Rutgers is going to drown in the B10. Our recruiting class is as good as theirs and could end up better. Penn State is Penn State, but we should've beaten them last time. They're the only game in (middle of nowhere) town, which is a far cry from being in the middle of a major city.

I understand his sister may live there but still what is appealing about playing in front of 10-15,000 people on average NFL stadium? They have consistently been one of the 10 worst FBS programs going back a long while. It is one thing if it is Rutgers, Cincinnati, or Vanderbilt but I will not be happy to lose a guy to Temple for football.

The only good of him going to Temple is that if we do not get him, stAte does not get him either.

We haven't averaged 10K in a while. We have nearly 10K students per game, with highs of around 12K for Penn State and Villanova. Our attendance is not great, but our student section grows every year, and school pride has really risen over the last few years. The key for us is to get alums back and to get unaffiliated fans to buy in. As far as the stadium goes, we are very likely going to announce plans for a 30K-34K on campus stadium in the coming months.

We have been historically bad, thanks to 100 years of administrative incompetence. We have a new president and athletic director, who are all in on major college football. Duke is historically awful too and they did pretty well this year. Just because we've been bad most of our history doesn't mean we're unable to turn it around.

I think a 1st round, a 2nd round, 2 3rd round, a 4th round, and a 5th round pick since 2009 is pretty impressive all things considered. We also have a few undrafted players doing well including the aforementioned Rod Streater and Saints starting LB Junior Galette, who was 6th in the NFL in sacks this year.

Temple has 10 undergrad WRs and most ore Sophs or Rs freshmen. They have 4 WR commits in this class and 1 is 6 4 and 190.. A Little crowded there.

We have 3 scholarship underclassmen WRs returning, one of whom is mostly going to be used on special teams. Fitzpatrick is a senior, our top WR Robby Anderson is a junior, and our #3 WR John Christopher is a junior. We currently have 4 committed who will definitely play WR, one of whom may not qualify. One of our commits who is listed at WR on Rivals is likely to play safety.

If you noticed the TE position on our roster, they are much lighter than traditional TEs. That is because our offense does not utilize a traditional TE. We use a WR/TE hybrid, i.e. bigger than a WR, but smaller and faster than a TE. We essentially run a 4 WR set at all times. Our starter at the hybrid is 6'4 225 and coming off an injury. Eaton very well could start over him as a freshman. At the least, there is plenty of playing time available with 4 WRs out there nearly every play.

[WVAPPeer]

Here's some info I just pulled off ESPN ---

""Unfortunately, that's just a part of it," Auburn running backs coach Tim Horton said. "It's not a part of recruiting that, I think, anybody likes. You like to get guys who commit to you and stick with you; it's like your bride. But everything that happens, it's just part of the process."

Auburn, on the heels of a Southeastern Conference championship and BCS title game appearance, has benefited from the epidemic of flipping. Nearly half the players in the Tigers' 2014 class first pledged to another school.

[boonetown1]

10-15k is very accurate for Temples attendance. Looking at home averages, they averaged roughly 20k as of last season. Which is funny because ,amu FCS schools average way more (App?).

I also gather from this JHG, that Temple is about to be in major debt.

[ASUPATCH]

I would like to formally give an incoming freshman a nickname I would love to see stick. He plays the same position as Calvin Johnson but stands only 5'8. His name is Deltron Hopkins. How could we NOT call him MINITRON.

[mtnjax]

How many WR's has Temple put in the nFL recently?

That answer should lead him where to go....if not good luck to him...APP will be good with him and good without him....i hope he makes the right choice.

We have the same number of WRs in the NFL as App State--1.

Rod Streater: 60 receptions, 888 yards, 4 TDs
Brian Quick: 18 receptions, .

You throw snowballs at Santa Clause and puke on children that are visiting fans. Philly still sucks

[PhillyApp1]

How many WR's has Temple put in the nFL recently?

That answer should lead him where to go....if not good luck to him...APP will be good with him and good without him....i hope he makes the right choice.

We have the same number of WRs in the NFL as App State--1.

Rod Streater: 60 receptions, 888 yards, 4 TDs
Brian Quick: 18 receptions, 302 yards, 2 TDs

Man, not sure I get the appeal of Temple. Farther from home, still non P5, one of the worst FBS programs in the country for decades. Pretty much the only selling point I could see is if you just really prefer to go to college in a big city. Or I guess if you like playing your home games in a mostly empty NFL stadium...

Excellent degree, brand new academic and athletic facilities, big school, big city with a lot of cultural and culinary offerings, four major sports teams, tons of internship and job opportunities if he does not make the NFL.

I went to college in philly. Love Big 5 basketball but Temple football is like high school in comparison. Temple is a city school in the projects of north philly and has a good student body and decent academics but playing football at Temple with Penn State and Rutgers in the Big 10 is B league ....I hope he sees how App is a Football town.

I would love to know where you went to school. Templetown is not in the projects. The Badlands are several miles away from campus. A lot of new places are popping up on campus and near campus. Stephen Starr and Marc Vetri didn't open restaurants down the street from Temple because it's in the slums. I'm guessing like many in the city and outside the city, you have not been on campus in quite a while. We just opened the largest and most expensive dorm in the country. Our football facility recently underwent a $10M expansion. We opened up a $60M athletic facility than is used for campus recreation and houses our men's and women's basketball practice facilities, which are used by all visiting NBA teams in town to play the Sixers. We have an $140M science center opening this summer. We just announced an $190M library.

Rutgers is going to drown in the B10. Our recruiting class is as good as theirs and could end up better. Penn State is Penn State, but we should've beaten them last time. They're the only game in (middle of nowhere) town, which is a far cry from being in the middle of a major city.

I understand his sister may live there but still what is appealing about playing in front of 10-15,000 people on average NFL stadium? They have consistently been one of the 10 worst FBS programs going back a long while. It is one thing if it is Rutgers, Cincinnati, or Vanderbilt but I will not be happy to lose a guy to Temple for football.

The only good of him going to Temple is that if we do not get him, stAte does not get him either.

We haven't averaged 10K in a while. We have nearly 10K students per game, with highs of around 12K for Penn State and Villanova. Our attendance is not great, but our student section grows every year, and school pride has really risen over the last few years. The key for us is to get alums back and to get unaffiliated fans to buy in. As far as the stadium goes, we are very likely going to announce plans for a 30K-34K on campus stadium in the coming months.

We have been historically bad, thanks to 100 years of administrative incompetence. We have a new president and athletic director, who are all in on major college football. Duke is historically awful too and they did pretty well this year. Just because we've been bad most of our history doesn't mean we're unable to turn it around.

I think a 1st round, a 2nd round, 2 3rd round, a 4th round, and a 5th round pick since 2009 is pretty impressive all things considered. We also have a few undrafted players doing well including the aforementioned Rod Streater and Saints starting LB Junior Galette, who was 6th in the NFL in sacks this year.

Temple has 10 undergrad WRs and most ore Sophs or Rs freshmen. They have 4 WR commits in this class and 1 is 6 4 and 190.. A Little crowded there.

We have 3 scholarship underclassmen WRs returning, one of whom is mostly going to be used on special teams. Fitzpatrick is a senior, our top WR Robby Anderson is a junior, and our #3 WR John Christopher is a junior. We currently have 4 committed who will definitely play WR, one of whom may not qualify. One of our commits who is listed at WR on Rivals is likely to play safety.

If you noticed the TE position on our roster, they are much lighter than traditional TEs. That is because our offense does not utilize a traditional TE. We use a WR/TE hybrid, i.e. bigger than a WR, but smaller and faster than a TE. We essentially run a 4 WR set at all times. Our starter at the hybrid is 6'4 225 and coming off an injury. Eaton very well could start over him as a freshman. At the least, there is plenty of playing time available with 4 WRs out there nearly every play.

Nice reply....As I said Temple is one of my favorite schools in philly. The students and grads are good people...I love the city of philly ....i go home 6-8 times a year ......all your points are well taken BUT the main point i make is Temple Football in philly is NOT big time football or even an average persons thought on a Saturday afternoon. In Boone, Football is on everyone's mind as the EAGLES are in philly.

On the Temple side you do have major city, Good academics, major media market, 90 minutes from jersey shore and New york.But i will also say Temple is near Diamond street and it can be a dangerous hood when you leave campus but in reality I loved the city life and its mostly safe.

[PhillyApp1]

How many WR's has Temple put in the nFL recently?

That answer should lead him where to go....if not good luck to him...APP will be good with him and good without him....i hope he makes the right choice.

We have the same number of WRs in the NFL as App State--1.

Rod Streater: 60 receptions, 888 yards, 4 TDs
Brian Quick: 18 receptions, .

You throw snowballs at Santa Clause and puke on children that are visiting fans. Philly still sucks

Sorry about the puking thing but the snow ball throwing was overblown.

And your comment about philly SUCKS.....get thicker skin knucklehead....and stay out of the upper decks wearing opposing teams shirts when going to Eagles games !! Everyone knows that but you Duh?

[Rekdiver]

Hey you can't argue with someone who has facts but the fact remains that they will be mired in the Middle to the bottom half of their league. JHG s responses were mature and well crafted. I find it interesting that someone from temple would take the time to surf our board. It tells me that Matthew Eaton is deciding between us and Temple. I doubt that recruits care about the debt. New coach and a commitment from the school to at least trying. He can get to the NFL via either school so what is his draw? If it's rabid fans and a full stadium it will be us. if it's the big city the it's Temple. As many have mentioned from experiences Philly is not known for southern hospitality. But remember this: this is a big commitment he's making and it's his choice and we should respect him regardless. The last twitter picture I saw of him he had a temple hat on...

[PhillyApp1]

Hey JHG,

Lets do a football game trade. I'll go to a Temple game with you and you can come to an APP game with me !!

I know you will love the APP game and I haven't been to a Temple football game in decades.

[PhillyApp1]

Hey you can't argue with someone who has facts but the fact remains that they will be mired in the Middle to the bottom half of their league. JHG s responses were mature and well crafted. I find it interesting that someone from temple would take the time to surf our board. It tells me that Matthew Eaton is deciding between us and Temple. I doubt that recruits care about the debt. New coach and a commitment from the school to at least trying. He can get to the NFL via either school so what is his draw? If it's rabid fans and a full stadium it will be us. if it's the big city the it's Temple. As many have mentioned from experiences Philly is not known for southern hospitality. But remember this: this is a big commitment he's making and it's his choice and we should respect him regardless. The last twitter picture I saw of him he had a temple hat on...

Have you not heard of the South philly hospitality
There are millions of good philly people, we are tough, proud, and very hard working group so when you or anyone else challenges us we will respond ( some people just respond like a dope like anywhere else).

I hope eaton picks APP but you are right there are positives to both.

[GoApps70]

Felt like was in a war zone last couple of trips to Philly. Would have felt safer in Afghanistan in the Army. Dodging potholes became a routine thing. Have long thought Philly was headed to be another Detroit. Wouldn't want my son going there.

[EastHallApp]

Man, not sure I get the appeal of Temple. Farther from home, still non P5, one of the worst FBS programs in the country for decades. Pretty much the only selling point I could see is if you just really prefer to go to college in a big city. Or I guess if you like playing your home games in a mostly empty NFL stadium...

Excellent degree, brand new academic and athletic facilities, big school, big city with a lot of cultural and culinary offerings, four major sports teams, tons of internship and job opportunities if he does not make the NFL.

Fair points, and I didn't really mean to come off as trashing Temple, although I see it reads that way. I just meant that, relative to his other choices, I have a hard time seeing what advantages Temple offers UNLESS living in a big city is a major draw for him. It's a solid school, but so is App (both rated far better than Arkansas St.). We've got nice new facilities too. And both App and Ark. State are closer to home, though firemoose pointed out that may not be a big factor for Eaton since he's moved around a lot.

Penn State is Penn State, but we should've beaten them last time. They're the only game in (middle of nowhere) town, which is a far cry from being in the middle of a major city.

I would just say this point (and the one about all the major sports teams) cuts both ways. Being in a big city certainly can have its draws, but one of the downsides for a college football player is that college sports get lost in the shuffle. That's the case to varying degrees even at major programs such as Boston College, Georgia Tech and Miami. Most elite programs are the "only game in town," or at least close to it. (Not that App is at that level, obviously. But we do have the dynamic of being the big fish in a small college town.)

But that comes down to personal preference. If going to college in a big city is a draw for Eaton, then obviously that's an advantage for Temple that App and Ark. State can't match.

[mikeyosef]

I've never lived in Philly but have done consulting work there and in surrounding areas. I like the city but especially like some of the surrounding towns; Conshohocken and Bryn Mawr are beautiful and very safe but still within an easy train ride or drive into the City. I don't know the area where Temple is located but I expect it may not be much different from these two. Regardless, there couldn't be much more contrast in these two opportunities for this young man from the standpoint of location and the football experience.

Aside from the most important aspect of College; education, I hope Eaton's more interested in Football than extracurricular (nightlife) activities; if he is, the clear choice is App State, if not he probably wouldn't fit in or like being a Mountaineer anyway. I hope we get him, if not, I wish him well.

[Goapps15]

Eaton tweeted last night that he has committed and that he won't let anyone know until Wednesday. This kid is milking every last ounce out of this recruiting process.

[Rekdiver]

He was plunking some people. When asked where, he responded..."to a 4year university.

[PhillyApp1]

Mikeyosef,
Temple is a CITY school, in North Philly which is not nice but the campus is its own world ie "Templetown".
Bryn Mawr is 2 miles from Villanova, one of the wealthiest areas in the country.

It really comes down to what environment he wants to live and play football.

[PhillyApp1]

Felt like was in a war zone last couple of trips to Philly. Would have felt safer in Afghanistan in the Army. Dodging potholes became a routine thing. Have long thought Philly was headed to be another Detroit. Wouldn't want my son going there.

WOW, sorry you are so sheltered ....I know 16 year old girls that aren't afraid of downtown philly

And by the way Philly is no where near Detroit financially. The metro area hasn't gone through the recession the rest of the country has because of the diversified economy ie Colleges, pharmaceuticals, Hospitals, tech companies to name a few so I think your feelings and thoughts are flat out wrong.

APP State is still a better place to play football IMHO

[EastHallApp]

Any way we could start a separate thread for the "Philly is great/Philly sucks" debate?

[SpeedkingATL]

All cities and towns have their good and bad points. I live in Atlanta and enjoy it, I lived and still visit Boone and love it, and spend a lot of time on the gulf coast and enjoy it too. This kid will make a decision based on a lot of factors as will all of these recruits. Hopefully App and the Boone area meet the needs of the majority of our recruits, but no need to bash kids, other cities/towns or programs. App State can stand on its own pretty well.

[PhillyApp1]

Any way we could start a separate thread for the "Philly is great/Philly sucks" debate?

Yo,you are right...Philly is GREAT and it does suck (sometimes) like any big city. I just don't like people making statements that have never lived there cause most people who have lived there including some APP grads enjoyed it, and if you didn't. oh well.

It is a part of Eatons decision process as far as what environment he lives in.