Roster/Staff Updates

[JTApps1]

I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.

Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

Is that good?

It didn't on Thursday!

[ASUFan4863]

I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.

Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

GS and CC both played emotional and they beat us. I understand playing under control but guys have to want it to win. It’s not a business transaction, another guy is literally trying to run you over and make you not want to see him coming at you again.

Energy and sideline reactions are often overplayed in importance. We’ve had players jumping around on our opponents sideline for years and it amounted to nothing. Recruiting, Development, Strength training, Execution and Gameplanning are far more important to winning.

[Mjohn1988]

I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.

Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

GS and CC both played emotional and they beat us. I understand playing under control but guys have to want it to win. It’s not a business transaction, another guy is literally trying to run you over and make you not want to see him coming at you again.

Energy and sideline reactions are often overplayed in importance. We’ve had players jumping around on our opponents sideline for years and it amounted to nothing. Recruiting, Development, Strength training, Execution and Gameplanning are far more important to winning.

I’m not so much talking about the guys on the sidelines. I’m talking about intensity on the field. I agree with everything else you’re pointing out, especially the strength training, but if 2 good athletes are facing each other the difference many times is simply who wants it the most. I’m not talking about who has the best TD or sack dance. Wanting to win is an emotional mind set. Refusing to quit is an emotional mind set. Being the best requires players to have certain emotions during practice and games. Football is a gladiator sport, not a business transaction.

[WASU 93]

I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.

Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

Is that good?

It didn't on Thursday!

In today’s new NIL world, the one area where we stand out is an incredible student crowd and solid alumni crowd that fills more seats (and a hillside) then they leave empty.
Players should love playing in that atmosphere (vs. at GaSt or ODU or Charlotte or even Marshall)
Perhaps the “business approach” should be saved for the road.

[bcoach]

I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.

Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

Is that good?

I don't believe that it is. There are a number of things that go into winning on the college level. An emotional/ energetic college mindset is one of them.

[Stonewall]

Our home atmosphere certainly fires up visiting teams.

[BambooRdApp]

I think the emotional mindset is different from a fan perspective versus players perspective. Yes, fans should be loud, feel the extra emotion or chill in the area so to speak.

Players jumping up and down on sidelines doesn't really mean anything to me as it is probably backups doing most of the jumping.
Personally, I try to look at reactions to great plays, great hits, great catches, etc. and team reactions. It seems the team is together. I see congrats and celebrations on big plays.

With that said, it appears that the new staff is setting a new standard and expectations. Whether those standards and expectations are correct, time will tell. During transitions like this, the old guard of players may have issues with this.. and couple this with potentially other players friends being asked to leave the team....may have short term impacts in the locker room.

We talk about 50 new players coming into the fold. Those players came in out of necessity. AND after many players had made decisions to go to other teams given how late a coach was named.

It will be interesting to see how DLo and team performs with an entire recruiting cycle.

[AppStFan1]

I think the emotional mindset is different from a fan perspective versus players perspective. Yes, fans should be loud, feel the extra emotion or chill in the area so to speak.

Players jumping up and down on sidelines doesn't really mean anything to me as it is probably backups doing most of the jumping.
Personally, I try to look at reactions to great plays, great hits, great catches, etc. and team reactions. It seems the team is together. I see congrats and celebrations on big plays.

With that said, it appears that the new staff is setting a new standard and expectations. Whether those standards and expectations are correct, time will tell. During transitions like this, the old guard of players may have issues with this.. and couple this with potentially other players friends being asked to leave the team....may have short term impacts in the locker room.

We talk about 50 new players coming into the fold. Those players came in out of necessity. AND after many players had made decisions to go to other teams given how late a coach was named.

It will be interesting to see how DLo and team performs with an entire recruiting cycle.

I agree with this. He will now have a full cycle so I think we need to see how the team looks next year to judge it better.

[AppDawg]

Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

Is that good?

It didn't on Thursday!

In today’s new NIL world, the one area where we stand out is an incredible student crowd and solid alumni crowd that fills more seats (and a hillside) then they leave empty.
Players should love playing in that atmosphere (vs. at GaSt or ODU or Charlotte or even Marshall)
Perhaps the “business approach” should be saved for the road.

Definitely the crowd is a selling point, but how long is it sustainable in current environment of L’s stacking up and prices continuing to increase? Definitely the last few years paying more for a lesser product.

At some point the bubble is gonna pop.

[lillycafe2]

Previous coach inherited a Corvette. Current coach inherited a Yugo.
Then weeding out players not living to the standard depleted even more on D.
He should be given time.
It is going to take time unless the staff gets nil money for D1 level OL, DL and secondary.

100% on this. If there is no improvement next season then I say there's and issue. Clark left at 5-6. There were players on that team that should have been gone before the season started. They got kept around so the overall record wouldn't be as bad as it could have been. This year we are 4-5. That's with a complete overhaul, first year head coach, injuries, and kicking some players to the curb. We are so used to winning and looking down at other schools we forgot what it's like to be the one picked on and beaten down. Humble pie has a way of wearing on the patience. With that said ...patience is the key. I think Coach Dlo figures this out. My first year moving up and coaching high school level soccer players ended with us losing all of our games (been coaching for a decade or more yet hadn't moved to that level). This year (3 years later) we won the championship of our league. That first year sucked big time and parents weren't real happy. The second year we went .500 and made the playoffs but got knocked out.....but those that stuck it out reaped the benefits this year.

What high school?

[fjblair]

I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.

Is that good?

It didn't on Thursday!

In today’s new NIL world, the one area where we stand out is an incredible student crowd and solid alumni crowd that fills more seats (and a hillside) then they leave empty.
Players should love playing in that atmosphere (vs. at GaSt or ODU or Charlotte or even Marshall)
Perhaps the “business approach” should be saved for the road.

Definitely the crowd is a selling point, but how long is it sustainable in current environment of L’s stacking up and prices continuing to increase? Definitely the last few years paying more for a lesser product.

At some point the bubble is gonna pop.

I think it will too, I just hope it isn't a big pop.

[ASUTodd]

Previous coach inherited a Corvette. Current coach inherited a Yugo.
Then weeding out players not living to the standard depleted even more on D.
He should be given time.
It is going to take time unless the staff gets nil money for D1 level OL, DL and secondary.

100% on this. If there is no improvement next season then I say there's and issue. Clark left at 5-6. There were players on that team that should have been gone before the season started. They got kept around so the overall record wouldn't be as bad as it could have been. This year we are 4-5. That's with a complete overhaul, first year head coach, injuries, and kicking some players to the curb. We are so used to winning and looking down at other schools we forgot what it's like to be the one picked on and beaten down. Humble pie has a way of wearing on the patience. With that said ...patience is the key. I think Coach Dlo figures this out. My first year moving up and coaching high school level soccer players ended with us losing all of our games (been coaching for a decade or more yet hadn't moved to that level). This year (3 years later) we won the championship of our league. That first year sucked big time and parents weren't real happy. The second year we went .500 and made the playoffs but got knocked out.....but those that stuck it out reaped the benefits this year.

What high school?

High School level players for a local Association. Not a school team.

[lillycafe2]

Previous coach inherited a Corvette. Current coach inherited a Yugo.
Then weeding out players not living to the standard depleted even more on D.
He should be given time.
It is going to take time unless the staff gets nil money for D1 level OL, DL and secondary.

100% on this. If there is no improvement next season then I say there's and issue. Clark left at 5-6. There were players on that team that should have been gone before the season started. They got kept around so the overall record wouldn't be as bad as it could have been. This year we are 4-5. That's with a complete overhaul, first year head coach, injuries, and kicking some players to the curb. We are so used to winning and looking down at other schools we forgot what it's like to be the one picked on and beaten down. Humble pie has a way of wearing on the patience. With that said ...patience is the key. I think Coach Dlo figures this out. My first year moving up and coaching high school level soccer players ended with us losing all of our games (been coaching for a decade or more yet hadn't moved to that level). This year (3 years later) we won the championship of our league. That first year sucked big time and parents weren't real happy. The second year we went .500 and made the playoffs but got knocked out.....but those that stuck it out reaped the benefits this year.

What high school?

High School level players for a local Association. Not a school team.

Gotcha. My son played for NC Rush Triad U19 last year. Freshman playing at a D2 now.

[appfanjj]

Let’s say you are a General Manager and you have about $1.3 million in NIL. How are you allocating that next year between current players and portal guys?

Start with Barnes.

[ASUFan4863]

It will be easier to find another Barnes than to find the money to keep Barnes and improve the roster.

[ASUFan4863]

Personal opinion in terms of priority -
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
QB

FCS and Freshman offer the most bang for the buck.

[t4pizza]

Personal opinion in terms of priority -
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
QB

FCS and Freshman offer the most bang for the buck.

I don't think we should be paying any unproven freshman at all. Use the resources on proven college players. I would put WR below LB on that list and add RB as well since we lose 7.

[CornCobPipes]

Personal opinion in terms of priority -
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
QB

FCS and Freshman offer the most bang for the buck.

I don't think we should be paying any unproven freshman at all. Use the resources on proven college players. I would put WR below LB on that list and add RB as well since we lose 7.

As it stands now you can quote these needs. LB we are more desperate than WR. But who knows when they bail to the portal in legions every year. What team does know? Even P5s have to deal at the 2 and 3 deep. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE SOON TO FIX THIS. If die hard college football fans like myself are losing interest think of the whole. They for damn sure ain't getting my money anymore. On that note....if we are going to pay players they need to at the very least have accomplished some type of milestones or stats. The entitlement because of came from P5 or ratings alone is bs! EARN IT! We had a good TE that got hurt....we have couple good RBs that don't get enough carries and when they do poorly designed run plays....we have couple decent WRs....decent Kicker.....but no one has been spectacular.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Can anyone absolutely with facts and figures show evidence of our peer schools amount of NIL being paid versus their results. Is JMU forking out big money? How many guys came there for big paychecks? I’ve asked before if we had a pool of cash for football would we really get better talent? How deep would that paid talent pool run? Assuming an 85 man roster on average what would it take for a 9-3 record (or better)? Hard to imagine the guys rated, say 36-85 on our average roster getting much. Is Alabama paying scout team guys much money? I ask because I really have no idea how this really works. I can refer to Overthecap to see a complete breakdown of the pay for any NFL team.

[ASUTodd]

Previous coach inherited a Corvette. Current coach inherited a Yugo.
Then weeding out players not living to the standard depleted even more on D.
He should be given time.
It is going to take time unless the staff gets nil money for D1 level OL, DL and secondary.

100% on this. If there is no improvement next season then I say there's and issue. Clark left at 5-6. There were players on that team that should have been gone before the season started. They got kept around so the overall record wouldn't be as bad as it could have been. This year we are 4-5. That's with a complete overhaul, first year head coach, injuries, and kicking some players to the curb. We are so used to winning and looking down at other schools we forgot what it's like to be the one picked on and beaten down. Humble pie has a way of wearing on the patience. With that said ...patience is the key. I think Coach Dlo figures this out. My first year moving up and coaching high school level soccer players ended with us losing all of our games (been coaching for a decade or more yet hadn't moved to that level). This year (3 years later) we won the championship of our league. That first year sucked big time and parents weren't real happy. The second year we went .500 and made the playoffs but got knocked out.....but those that stuck it out reaped the benefits this year.

What high school?

High School level players for a local Association. Not a school team.

Gotcha. My son played for NC Rush Triad U19 last year. Freshman playing at a D2 now.

I mainly coach SISA (South Iredell Soccer Association) teams. Did a couple of years coaching at Charlotte Independence.. I am going into 14 years of coaching.