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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by goapps93 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:15 pm

Maybe Coach Beck talked him into staying. It was reported that Beck was hoping he would stay. They were pretty buddy-buddy after McCall went out of their bowl game.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:16 pm

If we talked about one of our players like this folks would be going nuts. About all we really know is that this looks bad for McCall.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:59 pm

Auburn is known for its rigor in accepting transfers.

Florida even more so.

Tough break.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by spacemonkey » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:22 pm

It is almost like the "College" was put back in college football.

Someone could take the top 10 players from each school and start a semipro league and it would not hold a stick to "College Football" I wish the schools would stand up to the CFP powers that be. BIG 10, ACC and Notre Dame need to lead the way.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:40 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:22 pm
It is almost like the "College" was put back in college football.

Someone could take the top 10 players from each school and start a semipro league and it would not hold a stick to "College Football" I wish the schools would stand up to the CFP powers that be. BIG 10, ACC and Notre Dame need to lead the way.
These programs don’t have the high moral ground. They want the power as much as the SEC they just weren’t as good as executing.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:53 pm

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There was a lot of talk that when Chadwell was at Charleston Southern he was playing kids who were not even enrolled in school. If true, not sure how the university would let him get away with that.
No talk about it. It's factual. It put Charleston Southern on probation, lost wins, and other sanctions.

Charleston Southern didn't have enough compliance staff in place and Chadwell took advantage.
Playing guys that weren’t enrolled seems like a “show cause” sanction was in order.
He was already gone by the time penalties were enforced. But Charleston Southern football did get 18 wins vacated, 2 years of probation, a reduction of scholarships, $5000 + .5% of budget fine, and loss of practice time. Again, Chadwell was already gone by this time so he personally was not penalized.

It's what he does. He's done it at every stop he's been at. But he leaves before he can be penalized and the university takes the hit instead. North Greenville, Delta State, and Charleston Southern all hit with sanctions for similar things. Seems as though academics and eligibility may be an issue for at least one Coastal player as well. I'm not shocked.

A head coach does not make 3 different moves where he takes less pay (and one of which was losing the HC title to become OC) and bring 2 of previous employer sanctions by accident (especially since signs are pointing to a 3rd).

And to be clear, my beef isn't with McCall. I don't blame him at all. This is 100% on Chadwell and McCall knows that -- which is part of why he didn't follow him to Liberty.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:31 am

So we can't talk about negatively about App players or even about recruiting the son of one of our greatest players ever in an open forum, yet we can drag McCall through the mud and have a hearty chuckle about it?

Yes I'm being a jerk, but there is a double standard.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:47 am

T-Dog wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:31 am
So we can't talk about negatively about App players or even about recruiting the son of one of our greatest players ever in an open forum, yet we can drag McCall through the mud and have a hearty chuckle about it?

Yes I'm being a jerk, but there is a double standard.
We don’t often agree but this isn’t one of those times. America just watched a human being almost lose his life playing a game that we as fans enjoy as entertainment. These are people, young people, with families and like all of us, are imperfect. Would you want a loved one of yours to be talked about in an open forum like this?

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Stonewall » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:30 am

Soooo , I have heard that Burger has some wheels .Any idea what his measured times are?

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:18 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:30 am
Soooo , I have heard that Burger has some wheels .Any idea what his measured times are?
4.6 40 yard dash and 4.21 shuttle according to his Hudl out of HS.

Edited to say every time I watch his highlights I get excited man. He has the size, speed and arm talent to take us to the next level.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by App90 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:49 pm

AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:53 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:25 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:57 am
appfanz wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:21 am
There was a lot of talk that when Chadwell was at Charleston Southern he was playing kids who were not even enrolled in school. If true, not sure how the university would let him get away with that.
No talk about it. It's factual. It put Charleston Southern on probation, lost wins, and other sanctions.

Charleston Southern didn't have enough compliance staff in place and Chadwell took advantage.
Playing guys that weren’t enrolled seems like a “show cause” sanction was in order.
He was already gone by the time penalties were enforced. But Charleston Southern football did get 18 wins vacated, 2 years of probation, a reduction of scholarships, $5000 + .5% of budget fine, and loss of practice time. Again, Chadwell was already gone by this time so he personally was not penalized.

It's what he does. He's done it at every stop he's been at. But he leaves before he can be penalized and the university takes the hit instead. North Greenville, Delta State, and Charleston Southern all hit with sanctions for similar things. Seems as though academics and eligibility may be an issue for at least one Coastal player as well. I'm not shocked.

A head coach does not make 3 different moves where he takes less pay (and one of which was losing the HC title to become OC) and bring 2 of previous employer sanctions by accident (especially since signs are pointing to a 3rd).

And to be clear, my beef isn't with McCall. I don't blame him at all. This is 100% on Chadwell and McCall knows that -- which is part of why he didn't follow him to Liberty.
When South Carolina was interviewing coaches for their job and Chadwell's name kept appearing the AD at South Carolina said "we will not hire a coach with prior NCAA violations."
So he said violations (meaning more than one). Chadwell had players playing at Charleston Southern who were not even enrolled in school, some thing like 14 of them. How does he not know this. Every where he goes he leaves NCAA eligibility challenges behind. I am just waiting for some thing to drop out of Conway in a year or two.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Captain Morgan » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:02 pm

man when a SEC school can't get you in, it's bad.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Black Saturday » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:06 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:18 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:30 am
Soooo , I have heard that Burger has some wheels .Any idea what his measured times are?
4.6 40 yard dash and 4.21 shuttle according to his Hudl out of HS.

Edited to say every time I watch his highlights I get excited man. He has the size, speed and arm talent to take us to the next level.
Hope we are adding blockers and tacklers
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Stonewall » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 am

Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:06 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:18 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:30 am
Soooo , I have heard that Burger has some wheels .Any idea what his measured times are?
4.6 40 yard dash and 4.21 shuttle according to his Hudl out of HS.

Edited to say every time I watch his highlights I get excited man. He has the size, speed and arm talent to take us to the next level.
Hope we are adding blockers and tacklers
First and foremost , yes.The portal has added a few guys the last couple of days that I hope we at least evaluate.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:54 am

It is interesting that some on this board have been dogging McCall for his situation, some saying he may not be brightest guy, grades are really bad, etc, etc. However, were you folks that same people crying because we didn't bring him to App? If he is all that the bad mouthers are saying then would he have lasted a year at App? And why would you have wanted that type of kid here?

You can't have it both ways. I do think folks are throwing a lot of unverified shade on this situation. There have been some logical analysis about what "might" have happened with him on transfer/not transfer but saying he is dumb is different than after a transfer his hours may be so low he didn't want to go that way and would be set back 2 yrs to graduation.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppStateNews » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:59 am

AtlAppMan wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:54 am
It is interesting that some on this board have been dogging McCall for his situation, some saying he may not be brightest guy, grades are really bad, etc, etc. However, were you folks that same people crying because we didn't bring him to App? If he is all that the bad mouthers are saying then would he have lasted a year at App? And why would you have wanted that type of kid here?

You can't have it both ways. I do think folks are throwing a lot of unverified shade on this situation. There have been some logical analysis about what "might" have happened with him on transfer/not transfer but saying he is dumb is different than after a transfer his hours may be so low he didn't want to go that way and would be set back 2 yrs to graduation.
McCall would not have had a problem getting accepted (high 3's GPA out of high school). Would he have lasted a year here? Probably because he would have been forced to go to class if he wanted to be on the team. Chadwell simply doesn't care. He is the epitome of "we're not here to play school."

The shade needs to be thrown at Chadwell -- not McCall.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:03 pm

IF (speculation of course) he didn't go to class or apply himself blaming the head coach goes against personal accountability.

Chadwell is by many accounts not a good role model for college athletes, which most of us can agree on. However players are accountable for their actions (or lack thereof) in the classroom, and this is a pervasive comment not directed specifically at McCall.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:19 pm

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IF (speculation of course) he didn't go to class or apply himself blaming the head coach goes against personal accountability.

Chadwell is by many accounts not a good role model for college athletes, which most of us can agree on. However players are accountable for their actions (or lack thereof) in the classroom, and this is a pervasive comment not directed specifically at McCall.
Parents should have been all over this as well. It’s easy for a kid to think grades don’t matter because I’m going pro. The adults in the room need to step in and help guide the kids. “Going pro” can end on a single play.

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Unread post by AppStateNews » Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:26 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:03 pm
IF (speculation of course) he didn't go to class or apply himself blaming the head coach goes against personal accountability.

Chadwell is by many accounts not a good role model for college athletes, which most of us can agree on. However players are accountable for their actions (or lack thereof) in the classroom, and this is a pervasive comment not directed specifically at McCall.
For sure, McCall is at fault as well. But the shade needs to be thrown at Chadwell for creating the culture that football players are there to play football -- not go to school.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by GreatAppSt » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:23 pm

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The guy has been in school 4 years and hasn’t graduated. He has a TERRIBLE GPA based on what a CCU fan told me (low 2’s). He either forgot he was a student-athlete or the coaching staff and university greatly failed him. I believe it is the latter considering the history of Chadwell. He doesn’t care about graduating players or playing with integrity - he cares about getting one up on you to advance his career. Sucks for McCall as he really had no other choice other than go pro.
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