MAF - Yosef Town Hall 2/16

[EastHallApp]

Aren't money games the ones where we go to them and they don't come to us in return? I take the fewer money games to mean we are looking for home and home with the P5's rather than one and done's.

I didn't watch last night, but this has been my understanding. Obviously that greatly reduces the field of potential P5 opponents. It's a fine idea in theory; we'll see who we can actually get on the schedule.

Unless the well has dried up and the major P5’s would rather schedule Georgia State or Georgia Southern instead of a potential loss.

The one disadvantage we have in home and homes is unlike a Florida School or Georgia State or Charlotte, we don’t offer a chance to play in front of potential recruits. We’ll need to play up the tourist destination for visiting fans and may need to provide a visitors’ tailgate lot and shuttle service.

I think that last point has been a big one. Teams like Georgia State and ODU have gotten more P5s to come to their stadium than they'd have any right to expect, presumably because they're in the middle of major recruiting hotbeds.

That, along with not having any local hotel that can accommodate a football team, are significant obstacles for App.

[EastHallApp]

That said, we had quite a bit of success a few years ago getting several P5s to schedule games in Boone. Just have to see if we can get more of them. It's been a while.

[huskie3]

Does anyone know the size of our traveling party for plane trips? I would assume around 60 players, 15 coaches, 15-20 support personnel, another 10-15 athletic people. Aircraft, hotel and food for that many could easily be $200 - 250,000.

How often does the P5 agree to cover these costs in addition to the $1 million?

[AppSt94]

Does anyone know the size of our traveling party for plane trips? I would assume around 60 players, 15 coaches, 15-20 support personnel, another 10-15 athletic people. Aircraft, hotel and food for that many could easily be $200 - 250,000.

How often does the P5 agree to cover these costs in addition to the $1 million?

I’m pretty sure that travel cost is on us.

[appgrad95&97]

If we can secure more fairly local home and away deals with good P5’s- like closer ACC teams and even an occasional SEC that would instantly sell out KBS isn’t that really financially better than flying the crew to College Station? If we get $1m to go there how much do we net? I’m assuming the team has to bus to Charlotte, fly out on a Friday, spend the night, eat several meals and come back. Those costs have got to be close to if not more than $100k. Even if we end up with a 2 for 1 with a UNC, SC or Wake don’t we come out better with the huge gate and concession sales? Those closer P5 return games basically involves a bus ride often the day of the game- to Winston or Chapel Hill or even Columbia.

I don't know the answer to this, but the point I always make is that whenever we schedule a road buy game, part of that windfall is also offset by having to schedule an FCS home buy game.

We have to schedule FCS games?

[AppGrad78]

Yes. If we agree to go on the road without a return engagement, then we have to schedule someone willing to accept a similar arrangement in Boone. That’s the only way we can have a balanced six-home, six-road game schedule. In most instances, only FCS programs are willing to accept those terms.

[appgrad95&97]

Yes. If we agree to go on the road without a return engagement, then we have to schedule someone willing to accept a similar arrangement in Boone. That’s the only way we can have a balanced six-home, six-road game schedule. In most instances, only FCS programs are willing to accept those terms.

Well, i would rather play in Winston, or Chapel Hill, or Raleigh, or Durham than play and FCS program in Boone.

[AppSt94]

Yes. If we agree to go on the road without a return engagement, then we have to schedule someone willing to accept a similar arrangement in Boone. That’s the only way we can have a balanced six-home, six-road game schedule. In most instances, only FCS programs are willing to accept those terms.

Well, i would rather play in Winston, or Chapel Hill, or Raleigh, or Durham than play and FCS program in Boone.

I understand your point. The administration and the town of Boone probably disagree.

[AppGrad78]

So you’re saying you’re OK with a five-home, seven-road game schedule?

Programs have tried it. I remember when Duke sold one of its ACC home games to FSU. It’s hard to quantify the effect, but my guess is that it was a huge disaster, one that has set that program back to this day.

Also know that the High Country is keenly reliant on six App football games per year. No other single event — not MerleFest or the Wolly Worm Festival — pours dollars into the community like App football does.

And what of the message five home games sends to players and recruits?

I certainly enjoyed our trips to Ann Arbor and Athens, etc., but never at the risk of playing a five-game home schedule.

[spacemonkey]

Yes. If we agree to go on the road without a return engagement, then we have to schedule someone willing to accept a similar arrangement in Boone. That’s the only way we can have a balanced six-home, six-road game schedule. In most instances, only FCS programs are willing to accept those terms.

Well, i would rather play in Winston, or Chapel Hill, or Raleigh, or Durham than play and FCS program in Boone.

I understand your point. The administration and the town of Boone probably disagree.

with the new $650 season ticket, we better hope we can line up some p5 anything.

Our upcoming home games 2023 - 2026; Garner Webb, East Carolina, ETSU, Liberty, Toledo, Charlotte. There are only two spots left.

[EastHallApp]

I get that FCS games aren't very exciting, but I don't really understand this view that we should just never play them. Most teams do, at least some years. I mean UGA and Bama both have FCS teams on the schedule this year, but App is supposed to be above playing them?

[Saint3333]

Yes. If we agree to go on the road without a return engagement, then we have to schedule someone willing to accept a similar arrangement in Boone. That’s the only way we can have a balanced six-home, six-road game schedule. In most instances, only FCS programs are willing to accept those terms.

Well, i would rather play in Winston, or Chapel Hill, or Raleigh, or Durham than play and FCS program in Boone.

I understand your point. The administration and the town of Boone probably disagree.

with the new $650 season ticket, we better hope we can line up some p5 anything.

Our upcoming home games 2023 - 2026; Garner Webb, East Carolina, ETSU, Liberty, Toledo, Charlotte. There are only two spots left.

If you’re going to be a wet blanket all season please let me know so I can add you to the cline list…

[Saint3333]

I get that FCS games aren't very exciting, but I don't really understand this view that we should just never play them. Most teams do, at least some years. I mean UGA and Bama both have FCS teams on the schedule this year, but App is supposed to be above playing them?

I don’t mind a game that my heart can hopefully take a breather and we get to see you see guys in the game.

[pop5app]

Please accept this as a true question (not snarky). It’s been mentioned on here a couple of times about how Boone and the high country rely on the “football economy”. What exactly as the area given back to the University in return for 6 home games etc.? Again, an honest question!

[ASUchipman]

The same people who are complaining about playing FCS schools are the same people that complained UNC wouldn’t play us when we were FCS. How quickly we forget where we came from.

[AppGrad78]

Please accept this as a true question (not snarky). It’s been mentioned on here a couple of times about how Boone and the high country rely on the “football economy”. What exactly as the area given back to the University in return for 6 home games etc.? Again, an honest question!

Interesting question. I see a symbiotic relationship between Boone and the High Country. One likely wouldn’t exist without the other. One wouldn’t be nearly so inviting without the other. Take the Daniel Boone Inn, for example. Employs mostly students. Without the university, the employee pool dries up. Without the DBI, employment opportunities dry up. Town and gown are so intertwined, they’re really one thing.

[bigdaddyg]

I think back to my senior year (1986). Watagua county had been dry for what seemed like forever. We made that difficult drive to Blowing Rock to buy alcohol. After 1982 (I believe) the town of BR began enforcing the 51% rule for bars/restaurants effectively killing PB Scott’s, Mother Fletchers, etc. Watugua never allowed students to register to vote as residents. Correct me if I’m wrong but a referendum was finally passed which essentially added 10k new voters to the role. Once the beer and wine sales vote came back up it passed in a landslide.

For most of my years at App weekends in Boone were ghost towns. I can recall being among the 6 or so guys on my hall who stayed around on the weekend. Once that vote passed the town went nuts. Bars and restaurants sprung up, students stayed and spent money locally and as far as I know nobody except probably some local diehards have complained. I’m sure that over the years the town has seen its share of idiots but I’d be willing to bet the powers that be have to love the growth.

It’s certainly an interesting dynamic as mentioned previously but in terms of Saturday’s and football games I can’t imagine anyone going with 5 home games versus even $1m to the athletic budget.

[TheMoody1]

I think back to my senior year (1986). Boone had been dry for what seemed like forever. We made that difficult drive to Blowing Rock to buy alcohol. After 1982 (I believe) the town of BR began enforcing the 51% rule for bars/restaurants effectively killing PB Scott’s, Mother Fletchers, etc. Boone never allowed students to register to vote as residents. Correct me if I’m wrong but a referendum was finally passed which essentially added 10k new voters to the role. Once the beer and wine sales vote came back up it passed in a landslide.

For most of my years at App weekends in Boone were ghost towns. I can recall being among the 6 or so guys on my hall who stayed around on the weekend. Once that vote passed the town went nuts. Bars and restaurants sprung up, students stayed and spent money locally and as far as I know nobody except probably some local diehards have complained. I’m sure that over the years the town has seen its share of idiots but I’d be willing to bet the powers that be have to love the growth.

It’s certainly an interesting dynamic as mentioned previously but in terms of Saturday’s and football games I can’t imagine anyone going with 5 home games versus even $1m to the athletic budget.

[bigdaddyg]

I think back to my senior year (1986). Boone had been dry for what seemed like forever. We made that difficult drive to Blowing Rock to buy alcohol. After 1982 (I believe) the town of BR began enforcing the 51% rule for bars/restaurants effectively killing PB Scott’s, Mother Fletchers, etc. Boone never allowed students to register to vote as residents. Correct me if I’m wrong but a referendum was finally passed which essentially added 10k new voters to the role. Once the beer and wine sales vote came back up it passed in a landslide.

For most of my years at App weekends in Boone were ghost towns. I can recall being among the 6 or so guys on my hall who stayed around on the weekend. Once that vote passed the town went nuts. Bars and restaurants sprung up, students stayed and spent money locally and as far as I know nobody except probably some local diehards have complained. I’m sure that over the years the town has seen its share of idiots but I’d be willing to bet the powers that be have to love the growth.

It’s certainly an interesting dynamic as mentioned previously but in terms of Saturday’s and football games I can’t imagine anyone going with 5 home games versus even $1m to the athletic budget.

So it was the town of Boone and not the county? Wow I misremembered that.

[AppState89]

I think back to my senior year (1986). Watagua county had been dry for what seemed like forever. We made that difficult drive to Blowing Rock to buy alcohol. After 1982 (I believe) the town of BR began enforcing the 51% rule for bars/restaurants effectively killing PB Scott’s, Mother Fletchers, etc. Watugua never allowed students to register to vote as residents. Correct me if I’m wrong but a referendum was finally passed which essentially added 10k new voters to the role. Once the beer and wine sales vote came back up it passed in a landslide.

For most of my years at App weekends in Boone were ghost towns. I can recall being among the 6 or so guys on my hall who stayed around on the weekend. Once that vote passed the town went nuts. Bars and restaurants sprung up, students stayed and spent money locally and as far as I know nobody except probably some local diehards have complained. I’m sure that over the years the town has seen its share of idiots but I’d be willing to bet the powers that be have to love the growth.

It’s certainly an interesting dynamic as mentioned previously but in terms of Saturday’s and football games I can’t imagine anyone going with 5 home games versus even $1m to the athletic budget.

I will say my vote counted to make Boone not dry anymore. Forget what year it was, but students were allowed to vote and driving to Blowing Rock ended for us. LOL