Diversity at Appalachian State

[HeffnerIV]

So 4 western, predominantly white North Carolina Counties (Cherokee, Clay, Macon, and Mecklenburg), sent 1,712 students to Appalachian. Falls right in line.

I didn't make those graphics. If I were being paid to I'd make a map darkening counties that sent the most students to Appalachian and compare it to the racial demographic county breakdown. I just thought we could extrapolate some of that data to glean reasons for such a low percentage of black people at App State and I succeeded, at the very least, in showing a geographic correlation. If you'd rather attribute those racial disparities to offensive stereotypes, go ahead man.

Um, do you even do research or just say what you think with then has to be true?
http://www.thecharlottepost.com/index.p ... tyminority

I wonder how long before the phrase "browning of America" is deemed racist.


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[Capt. Ed]

Its scary watching this post grow. Like watching a wreck in slow motion that's still going on.

Before we actually demonstrate why African Americans and other minorities are worried about coming here, let's stop.

Bottom line, ASU has the lowest population of African Americans in the UNC System. We can and must do better regardless of the climate, geography, or demographics of western NC.

Lets let Chancellor Everts lead the way and not cause her problems by playing armchair experts.

[Gonzo]

So 4 western, predominantly white North Carolina Counties (Cherokee, Clay, Macon, and Mecklenburg), sent 1,712 students to Appalachian. Falls right in line.

I didn't make those graphics. If I were being paid to I'd make a map darkening counties that sent the most students to Appalachian and compare it to the racial demographic county breakdown. I just thought we could extrapolate some of that data to glean reasons for such a low percentage of black people at App State and I succeeded, at the very least, in showing a geographic correlation. If you'd rather attribute those racial disparities to offensive stereotypes, go ahead man.

Um, do you even do research or just say what you think with then has to be true?
http://www.thecharlottepost.com/index.p ... tyminority

"includes 482,177 non-Hispanic whites, which make up 49.7 percent; 296,222 blacks 30.5 percent."

There are far more white people than people of color in Meck, making them the largest single racial group in the county. "Predominately white" was likewise not technically accurate I guess, since, according to the 2013 article you posted, honkeys are .3 of a percent from outnumbering all other races combined (ie "predominating).

Besides several of my posts, yours is the first one to provide a link to anything, so yes, I did do the research. I'm not sure why you've levied such hostility towards me. Enjoy your gotcha moment I guess....

I'd love to see some evidence from the two of you (or more) who are so offended by the notion that App serving Western NC, a. area with fewer people of color than other portions of the state, contributes to the lack of diversity at Appalachian.

[APPdiesel]

There's an old old wooden ship at Appalachian State?

[NewApp]

FWIW, as to Charlotte/Mecklenberg, there are 51 schools which have 10% or less whites.

[bigdaddyg]

Just wondering, is there an ongoing push to increase the non-black student populations at predominately African American universities in NC? What is the percentage of white students at NCCU, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, etc? I really don't think any of this is a real issue.

[bigdaddyg]

Just wondering, is there an ongoing push to increase the non-black student populations at predominately African American universities in NC? What is the percentage of white students at NCCU, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, etc? I really don't think any of this is a real issue.

[App91]

So 4 western, predominantly white North Carolina Counties (Cherokee, Clay, Macon, and Mecklenburg), sent 1,712 students to Appalachian. Falls right in line.

I didn't make those graphics. If I were being paid to I'd make a map darkening counties that sent the most students to Appalachian and compare it to the racial demographic county breakdown. I just thought we could extrapolate some of that data to glean reasons for such a low percentage of black people at App State and I succeeded, at the very least, in showing a geographic correlation. If you'd rather attribute those racial disparities to offensive stereotypes, go ahead man.

Um, do you even do research or just say what you think with then has to be true?
http://www.thecharlottepost.com/index.p ... tyminority

"includes 482,177 non-Hispanic whites, which make up 49.7 percent; 296,222 blacks 30.5 percent."

There are far more white people than people of color in Meck, making them the largest single racial group in the county. "Predominately white" was likewise not technically accurate I guess, since, according to the 2013 article you posted, honkeys are .3 of a percent from outnumbering all other races combined (ie "predominating).

Besides several of my posts, yours is the first one to provide a link to anything, so yes, I did do the research. I'm not sure why you've levied such hostility towards me. Enjoy your gotcha moment I guess....

I'd love to see some evidence from the two of you (or more) who are so offended by the notion that App serving Western NC, a. area with fewer people of color than other portions of the state, contributes to the lack of diversity at Appalachian.

Not hostile, just your tendency to produce your opinion as fact to discredit those who think differently. Guess the term "Majority-Minority" was lost on you. As well, using Meck. county stats, one needs to look further. In the Public schools, African Americans are the largest racial group. Another good research article for you.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/l ... 47018.html

[HeffnerIV]

I certainly agree with the benefits of the diversity of student populations and the contributions minorities make to the educational experience. I had first generation Greek and Korean roommates at App and one of them is my best friend to this day. While we always argue what diversity contributes to our educational experience as the majority, what's in it for them?


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[MJ1988]

Race should never be a factor in admittance to any public university. It shouldn't be allowed as a category on the application.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Race should never be a factor in admittance to any public university. It shouldn't be allowed as a category on the application.

What should be on the application?

[Rekdiver]

Just wondering, is there an ongoing push to increase the non-black student populations at predominately African American universities in NC? What is the percentage of white students at NCCU, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, etc? I really don't think any of this is a real issue.

Really? You really said this? That is not even part of this discussion, nor should be.

[appdaze]

I think one issue is still the perception that people have about what App is. I know plenty of people who don't know a thing about our sports programs and they have the stereotype opinion that we are still Happy Appy hippie teacher school. My acquaintances are of white, latino, and black who have mentioned such perceptions in conversation. I think the cultural perception inhibits our diversity. We have only just begun to become a more "main stream" university in the eyes of many and that is solely due to our rise in sports. Culture plays a major role in where a demographic of people enjoys going. You have to compare what Boone offers VS the other cities/towns where NC universities sit. What things appeal to what demographic. Unfortunately as well there is also a perception of strong racism in mountains of North Carolina aka the hill billy culture. Long outdated stereotypes still exist. While some issues may seem small they all add up to our cultural perception. I don't think trying to force diversity through accepting certain people is the best solution. There has to be a culture shift with the university and with the city of Boone if they want true diversity. Only then will App become truly attractive to minority groups.

[MJ1988]

Race should never be a factor in admittance to any public university. It shouldn't be allowed as a category on the application.

What should be on the application?

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I'm not going to get into what should be on the
application. Measuring student achievement and
predicting a students ability to succeed is not my
expetiese. My prior statement revolves around my
belief that minority students are equal to majority
student in their ability to achieve. They don't need
to have the scale skewed for them.

[HeffnerIV]

Should race be on the application?


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[MJ1988]

If your asking me I already sad no

[HeffnerIV]

No, wasn't meant for any one person- more of a survey question.


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