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Not surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
I think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pmNot surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I’ll get skewered for this but I’d love if furman joined the sunbelt.AppWyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pmI think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pmNot surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I really think regional rivalries are more important to building solid programs than national brand recognition. I am not saying national brand recognition is not important, but being able to talk junk to your coworkers about what your school did to their school on the football field is priceless.
The rivalry between Marshall, Georgia Southern, Furman, and even Western Carolina is the foundation that Appalachian has built its entire football program upon. Even Lenoir Rhyne was at one time one of Appalachian's rivals. I would even go as far as to say that the SBC conference resurrected itself on the rivalry between Georgia Southern and Appalachian, because it showed the teams left in the Sun Belt Conference what a proper rivalry should look like.
Really it is not keeping up with the Jones's is not what college sports is all about it is taking down your rivals. What are your alumni willing to give to make that happen? Basically, you are only as good as your rivals.
That is what makes the east so much fun for us is that we know the history between us and JMU and Marshall. Coastal did what they needed to do to take us down and they have built a program that should not be taken lightly.
I have never liked the weakest link analogy, which some people believe some schools in the SBC to be. I like the cable analogy which says we are stronger because of all the strands. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the ... -link.html https://www.roundforge.com/articles/all ... nch-cable/
Ugh, no. Consider yourself skewered.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:25 amI’ll get skewered for this but I’d love if furman joined the sunbelt.AppWyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pmI think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pmNot surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I really think regional rivalries are more important to building solid programs than national brand recognition. I am not saying national brand recognition is not important, but being able to talk junk to your coworkers about what your school did to their school on the football field is priceless.
The rivalry between Marshall, Georgia Southern, Furman, and even Western Carolina is the foundation that Appalachian has built its entire football program upon. Even Lenoir Rhyne was at one time one of Appalachian's rivals. I would even go as far as to say that the SBC conference resurrected itself on the rivalry between Georgia Southern and Appalachian, because it showed the teams left in the Sun Belt Conference what a proper rivalry should look like.
Really it is not keeping up with the Jones's is not what college sports is all about it is taking down your rivals. What are your alumni willing to give to make that happen? Basically, you are only as good as your rivals.
That is what makes the east so much fun for us is that we know the history between us and JMU and Marshall. Coastal did what they needed to do to take us down and they have built a program that should not be taken lightly.
I have never liked the weakest link analogy, which some people believe some schools in the SBC to be. I like the cable analogy which says we are stronger because of all the strands. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the ... -link.html https://www.roundforge.com/articles/all ... nch-cable/
Appalachian loves to hate purple.fjblair wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:57 amUgh, no. Consider yourself skewered.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:25 amI’ll get skewered for this but I’d love if furman joined the sunbelt.AppWyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pmI think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pmNot surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I really think regional rivalries are more important to building solid programs than national brand recognition. I am not saying national brand recognition is not important, but being able to talk junk to your coworkers about what your school did to their school on the football field is priceless.
The rivalry between Marshall, Georgia Southern, Furman, and even Western Carolina is the foundation that Appalachian has built its entire football program upon. Even Lenoir Rhyne was at one time one of Appalachian's rivals. I would even go as far as to say that the SBC conference resurrected itself on the rivalry between Georgia Southern and Appalachian, because it showed the teams left in the Sun Belt Conference what a proper rivalry should look like.
Really it is not keeping up with the Jones's is not what college sports is all about it is taking down your rivals. What are your alumni willing to give to make that happen? Basically, you are only as good as your rivals.
That is what makes the east so much fun for us is that we know the history between us and JMU and Marshall. Coastal did what they needed to do to take us down and they have built a program that should not be taken lightly.
I have never liked the weakest link analogy, which some people believe some schools in the SBC to be. I like the cable analogy which says we are stronger because of all the strands. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the ... -link.html https://www.roundforge.com/articles/all ... nch-cable/
I have a sudden taste for shish kabobs.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:25 amI’ll get skewered for this but I’d love if furman joined the sunbelt.AppWyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pmI think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pmNot surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I really think regional rivalries are more important to building solid programs than national brand recognition. I am not saying national brand recognition is not important, but being able to talk junk to your coworkers about what your school did to their school on the football field is priceless.
The rivalry between Marshall, Georgia Southern, Furman, and even Western Carolina is the foundation that Appalachian has built its entire football program upon. Even Lenoir Rhyne was at one time one of Appalachian's rivals. I would even go as far as to say that the SBC conference resurrected itself on the rivalry between Georgia Southern and Appalachian, because it showed the teams left in the Sun Belt Conference what a proper rivalry should look like.
Really it is not keeping up with the Jones's is not what college sports is all about it is taking down your rivals. What are your alumni willing to give to make that happen? Basically, you are only as good as your rivals.
That is what makes the east so much fun for us is that we know the history between us and JMU and Marshall. Coastal did what they needed to do to take us down and they have built a program that should not be taken lightly.
I have never liked the weakest link analogy, which some people believe some schools in the SBC to be. I like the cable analogy which says we are stronger because of all the strands. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the ... -link.html https://www.roundforge.com/articles/all ... nch-cable/
I would kill to see an early season Furman beatdown in boonetown instead of Lindenwood.AppinVA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 7:32 amI have a sudden taste for shish kabobs.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:25 amI’ll get skewered for this but I’d love if furman joined the sunbelt.AppWyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pmI think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pmNot surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I really think regional rivalries are more important to building solid programs than national brand recognition. I am not saying national brand recognition is not important, but being able to talk junk to your coworkers about what your school did to their school on the football field is priceless.
The rivalry between Marshall, Georgia Southern, Furman, and even Western Carolina is the foundation that Appalachian has built its entire football program upon. Even Lenoir Rhyne was at one time one of Appalachian's rivals. I would even go as far as to say that the SBC conference resurrected itself on the rivalry between Georgia Southern and Appalachian, because it showed the teams left in the Sun Belt Conference what a proper rivalry should look like.
Really it is not keeping up with the Jones's is not what college sports is all about it is taking down your rivals. What are your alumni willing to give to make that happen? Basically, you are only as good as your rivals.
That is what makes the east so much fun for us is that we know the history between us and JMU and Marshall. Coastal did what they needed to do to take us down and they have built a program that should not be taken lightly.
I have never liked the weakest link analogy, which some people believe some schools in the SBC to be. I like the cable analogy which says we are stronger because of all the strands. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the ... -link.html https://www.roundforge.com/articles/all ... nch-cable/
All for this... however, no desire to have them join the conference. Seems like a step back if we did...like adding La. Tech.appbroker20 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 9:09 amI would kill to see an early season Furman beatdown in boonetown instead of Lindenwood.AppinVA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 7:32 amI have a sudden taste for shish kabobs.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:25 amI’ll get skewered for this but I’d love if furman joined the sunbelt.AppWyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pmI think the main thing is how much some of the schools in the west cannot stand La Tech and want the opportunity to show how unsuperior they are. Just like we want to show Charlotte and ECU how unsuperior they are.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:51 pm
Not surprising. There’s a very large resource gap between the east and west schools.
No offense to La tech, but their addition when we had La Monroe showed the ambition of the western schools
I really think regional rivalries are more important to building solid programs than national brand recognition. I am not saying national brand recognition is not important, but being able to talk junk to your coworkers about what your school did to their school on the football field is priceless.
The rivalry between Marshall, Georgia Southern, Furman, and even Western Carolina is the foundation that Appalachian has built its entire football program upon. Even Lenoir Rhyne was at one time one of Appalachian's rivals. I would even go as far as to say that the SBC conference resurrected itself on the rivalry between Georgia Southern and Appalachian, because it showed the teams left in the Sun Belt Conference what a proper rivalry should look like.
Really it is not keeping up with the Jones's is not what college sports is all about it is taking down your rivals. What are your alumni willing to give to make that happen? Basically, you are only as good as your rivals.
That is what makes the east so much fun for us is that we know the history between us and JMU and Marshall. Coastal did what they needed to do to take us down and they have built a program that should not be taken lightly.
I have never liked the weakest link analogy, which some people believe some schools in the SBC to be. I like the cable analogy which says we are stronger because of all the strands. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the ... -link.html https://www.roundforge.com/articles/all ... nch-cable/
The best league will no longer be determined by the W/L records. It will be financial.T-Dog wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 9:05 amI know this will sound like FCSers did a decade ago but the grass ain't always greener. There should be a move just to make a move. Most tires you kick dont need air.
And at the end of the day, even if you have the best league with top schools, someone's gotta go 3-9.
This right here. If regional rivalries is what we are interested in, we are a regional brand. We should be focused on remaining as a national brand and growing it further. Not looking to going back to the soconASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:04 amConversations should begin shifting from who we would love to see join the SBC to where we would love to see App go.
Exactly.....Hence the reason of Gill casting the notion of adding more after LaTech. He's planning for fallout. The problem looking ahead for the SBC is it cant seek from the AAC who is changing name to the American only conference(AC) unless it gets hit like the PAC12 did which isn't as likely because the ACC will get hit before they would which would mean the ACC maybe picks from that residual. The only schools the SBC could expand with would be from the FCS pool or MAC or CUSAs established leftovers from there FCS adds.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:04 amConversations should begin shifting from who we would love to see join the SBC to where we would love to see App go.
Until the early 90's the Atlanta Braves were in the NL West.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 7:24 amSeems like the NFL and MLB kind of figured out that some of their divisions were geographically stupid. The Reds used to play in the NL West with LA and SF. The NFL made their divisions better as well. College athletic conferences are so stupid especially at our level. It might also be my age talking but that whole brand thing gets way overblown. Outside of the school fan bases who cares about any G5 level school? Are there pockets of Coastal fans in Ohio? The answer to lots of the issues is really simple. Keep all G5 level conferences geographically centralized. We really have no business flying to south La or Texas for conference games. How many App fans travel to La or Texas for a basketball game? Same for those teams coming to Boone.
The ACC is what I’m looking to and personally hoping for. A future ACC that includes App would obviously not be the ACC today, but it would be better than the Sun Belt today.CornCobPipes wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 10:42 amExactly.....Hence the reason of Gill casting the notion of adding more after LaTech. He's planning for fallout. The problem looking ahead for the SBC is it cant seek from the AAC who is changing name to the American only conference(AC) unless it gets hit like the PAC12 did which isn't as likely because the ACC will get hit before they would which would mean the ACC maybe picks from that residual. The only schools the SBC could expand with would be from the FCS pool or MAC or CUSAs established leftovers from there FCS adds.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:04 amConversations should begin shifting from who we would love to see join the SBC to where we would love to see App go.
For us to look ahead to a move as things stand the only opportunity (and not without risk) would be the American or the ACC. From the way things sound the SEC is getting ready to take maybe 4 including UNC from the ACC. So the question becomes what will the ACC backfill with? You can bet they will raid the American first.