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OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:18 pm
by WVAPPeer
Will the Big 12 immediately go after 2 more teams or will the NCAA (not wanting more jumping around within conferences) adjust their rules to require only 10 teams for a conference championship game? ---

Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:22 pm
by AppSt94
Is the problem a lack of a CCG or the way teams are picked? TCU started the weekend #4 and beat #9 yesterday. OSU started the week ranked lower, beat #13 and moved past TCU. I don't see where TCU should have been moved out. The system is still a sham.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:25 pm
by TheMoody1
TCU was ranked #3.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:33 pm
by WVAPPeer
TheMoody1 wrote:TCU was ranked #3.
but instead of playing a Baylor in the Big 12 championship game they played the worst team in the conference ---
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:34 pm
by newtoasu
AppSt94 wrote:Is the problem a lack of a CCG or the way teams are picked? TCU started the weekend #4 and beat #9 yesterday. OSU started the week ranked lower, beat #13 and moved past TCU. I don't see where TCU should have been moved out. The system is still a sham.
As pointed out, TCU was #3 last week, however they did not beat #9 yesterday. TCU beat a very bad Iowa State team by more than 50. Baylor beat #9 Kansas State yesterday.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:36 pm
by AppSt94
You are correct. I got my arguments mixed up. Wasn't Baylor ranked 5 the and OSU 6th going into this week?
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:36 pm
by newtoasu
WVAPPeer wrote:Will the Big 12 immediately go after 2 more teams or will the NCAA (not wanting more jumping around within conferences) adjust their rules to require only 10 teams for a conference championship game? ---

While the question is a good one, and we may see movement on both fronts, I think the real question is how long will it be before we see the playoff expanded to allow every P5 conference champion a shot in the playoffs? Just because of numbers that should probably allow the top G5 to get in the playoff as well.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:39 pm
by Saint3333
newtoasu wrote:WVAPPeer wrote:Will the Big 12 immediately go after 2 more teams or will the NCAA (not wanting more jumping around within conferences) adjust their rules to require only 10 teams for a conference championship game? --- :?
While the question is a good one, and we may see movement on both fronts, I think the real question is how long will it be before we see the playoff expanded to allow every P5 conference champion a shot in the playoffs? Just because of numbers that should probably allow the top G5 to get in the playoff as well.
2016, 2017 at the latest.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:41 pm
by newtoasu
AppSt94 wrote:You are correct. I got my arguments mixed up. Wasn't Baylor ranked 5 the and OSU 6th going into this week?
No, Ohio State was #5 and Baylor #6.
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/view-rankings
But as I said before, how does #3 fall 3 spots when they win by 50+?
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:48 pm
by AppSt94
newtoasu wrote:AppSt94 wrote:You are correct. I got my arguments mixed up. Wasn't Baylor ranked 5 the and OSU 6th going into this week?
No, Ohio State was #5 and Baylor #6.
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/view-rankings
But as I said before, how does #3 fall 3 spots when they win by 50+?
Thanks. The answer to your question is the reason #3 fell three spots is because this is a different fraud of the system than the BCS. I have watched less football this year than ever. I watched all but one App game. I may skip the three playoff games altogether as a protest of the process.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:55 pm
by appst89
AppSt94 wrote:newtoasu wrote:AppSt94 wrote:You are correct. I got my arguments mixed up. Wasn't Baylor ranked 5 the and OSU 6th going into this week?
No, Ohio State was #5 and Baylor #6.
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/view-rankings
But as I said before, how does #3 fall 3 spots when they win by 50+?
Thanks. The answer to your question is the reason #3 fell three spots is because this is a different fraud of the system than the BCS. I have watched less football this year than ever. I watched all but one App game. I may skip the three playoff games altogether as a protest of the process.
It's a purely symbolic gesture, I understand, but I will not watch the playoffs.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:23 pm
by bcoach
appst89 wrote:AppSt94 wrote:newtoasu wrote:AppSt94 wrote:You are correct. I got my arguments mixed up. Wasn't Baylor ranked 5 the and OSU 6th going into this week?
No, Ohio State was #5 and Baylor #6.
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/view-rankings
But as I said before, how does #3 fall 3 spots when they win by 50+?
Thanks. The answer to your question is the reason #3 fell three spots is because this is a different fraud of the system than the BCS. I have watched less football this year than ever. I watched all but one App game. I may skip the three playoff games altogether as a protest of the process.
It's a purely symbolic gesture, I understand, but I will not watch the playoffs.
I will not watch either but really it is because I just don't care. ASU is done so it is BB season.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:38 pm
by WVAPPeer
You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:39 pm
by appst89
WVAPPeer wrote:You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
I thought the committee would be better. Turns out, I was wrong.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:44 pm
by AppSt94
WVAPPeer wrote:You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
Not at all. I also don't think that expanding them to 6 or 8 solves the problem either as there will always be controversy. I think it should be a true tournament style with the 9 conference champs and 14 at large teams like the FCS.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:57 pm
by WVAPPeer
appst89 wrote:WVAPPeer wrote:You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
I thought the committee would be better. Turns out, I was wrong.
Shirley, you can't be serious??? ---

Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:59 pm
by appst89
WVAPPeer wrote:appst89 wrote:WVAPPeer wrote:You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
I thought the committee would be better. Turns out, I was wrong.
Shirley, you can't be serious??? ---

The computer couldn't have screwed up this badly.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:02 pm
by AppSt94
And don't call him Shirley.
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:21 pm
by WVAPPeer
appst89 wrote:WVAPPeer wrote:You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
I thought the committee would be better. Turns out, I was wrong.
So which 2 teams should be playing in your mind? ---
Re: OK - here's the question ---
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:24 pm
by appst89
WVAPPeer wrote:appst89 wrote:WVAPPeer wrote:You guys really think having a computer pick 2 teams is better than a committee picking 4? --- anyway, I see this going to 8 teams with the 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams ---
I thought the committee would be better. Turns out, I was wrong.
So which 2 teams should be playing in your mind? ---
Well, I like four better than two, so I'm not saying it should be two. But I think the committee screwed up worse than the computer ever did.