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Unread post by Kgfish » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:54 am

bcoach wrote:It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Good thing professors at ASU never complain about the university. :roll:
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Unread post by hapapp » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:36 am

As I said, I don't have anything against UNCC the institution (save Judy Rose's snobbery), but I do against their GSU-esque fans.

That was my point. I have no love for Charlotte, could care less if they win a game in any sport. I just no need to trash the university.

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Unread post by bcoach » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:02 am

Kgfish wrote:
bcoach wrote:It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Good thing professors at ASU never complain about the university. :roll:
I would be very surprised and disappointed if they said what she said IF she said it. If you are ashamed of the product your company produces you need to either leave or work to improve it. It is very simple to sit back and criticize. It takes someone with a backbone and an appreciation for what they have been given to do the right thing. It takes someone with no appreciation for the opportunity they have been given to sit back and criticize and do nothing to improve the product. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. It makes me very sad that she did not learn that while at ASU. That is IF she really did say what she was quoted as saying.

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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:07 am

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bcoach wrote: It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Wow. You'd say that about a member of the Appalachian Family. Stand down.
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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:16 am

hapapp wrote:As I said, I don't have anything against UNCC the institution (save Judy Rose's snobbery), but I do against their GSU-esque fans.

That was my point. I have no love for Charlotte, could care less if they win a game in any sport. I just no need to trash the university.
Duly noted. I think we disagree on people trashing UNCC on the MMB are harming Appalachian State.
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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:18 am

bcoach wrote:
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bcoach wrote: It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Wow. You'd say that about a member of the Appalachian Family. Stand down.
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One of my closest buddies from second grade-on graduated from UNC-C. I consider him as close as anything I have to a brother, so other than banter and smack talk, I wouldn't trash the school, as I wouldn't want to trash him (we're steering clear of this Conference USA mess presently, though he does feel we belong alongside them).

That said, I also won't call a member of my ASU...excuse me...App State Family, that I didn't otherwise know, lazy or unqualified. In part, because of her degree from Appalachian she is qualified to teach at UNC-Charlotte (according to her bosses). She is also qualified to have opinions about the type of student that comes through her class and express them privately. I'm also going to make a safe assumption that she was both off the clock and off campus, which makes your argument moot in the eyes of the law.

Let's take this a step further. Coach Moore, who is still under contract to the school until the end of the fiscal year, hasn't been what you could call a "model employee" since his whatever you wish to call it (it's not important, as he's still employed by the school). I'm sure he's said some things privately about his direct supervisor that you feel would be grounds for firing for cause. Do you believe, as I do, that IF he would like, we should offer to employ him to be an ambassador for App State? I feel we'd be stupid not to, but going on what you've said above, he should be dismissed immediately.
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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:34 am

AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote: It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Wow. You'd say that about a member of the Appalachian Family. Stand down.
Yes NO
One of my closest buddies from second grade-on graduated from UNC-C. I consider him as close as anything I have to a brother, so other than banter and smack talk, I wouldn't trash the school, as I wouldn't want to trash him (we're steering clear of this Conference USA mess presently, though he does feel we belong alongside them).

That said, I also won't call a member of my ASU...excuse me...App State Family, that I didn't otherwise know, lazy or unqualified. In part, because of her degree from Appalachian she is qualified to teach at UNC-Charlotte (according to her bosses). She is also qualified to have opinions about the type of student that comes through her class and express them privately. I'm also going to make a safe assumption that she was both off the clock and off campus, which makes your argument moot in the eyes of the law.

Let's take this a step further. Coach Moore, who is still under contract to the school until the end of the fiscal year, hasn't been what you could call a "model employee" since his whatever you wish to call it (it's not important, as he's still employed by the school). I'm sure he's said some things privately about his direct supervisor that you feel would be grounds for firing for cause. Do you believe, as I do, that IF he would like, we should offer to employ him to be an ambassador for App State? I feel we'd be stupid not to, but going on what you've said above, he should be dismissed immediately.
Let's put it this way. I love coach Moore and always will I believe. If he is making remarks that are damaging to the university that can be found on a message board his pay needs to stop TODAY!!!
One other thing is that a member of the family can be wrong.
My last comment on the subject is that I am not positive this unknown prof said what was quoted to begin with, and all along I have kept this up expectiong someone to bring that up.

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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:51 am

bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote: It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Wow. You'd say that about a member of the Appalachian Family. Stand down.
Yes NO
One of my closest buddies from second grade-on graduated from UNC-C. I consider him as close as anything I have to a brother, so other than banter and smack talk, I wouldn't trash the school, as I wouldn't want to trash him (we're steering clear of this Conference USA mess presently, though he does feel we belong alongside them).

That said, I also won't call a member of my ASU...excuse me...App State Family, that I didn't otherwise know, lazy or unqualified. In part, because of her degree from Appalachian she is qualified to teach at UNC-Charlotte (according to her bosses). She is also qualified to have opinions about the type of student that comes through her class and express them privately. I'm also going to make a safe assumption that she was both off the clock and off campus, which makes your argument moot in the eyes of the law.

Let's take this a step further. Coach Moore, who is still under contract to the school until the end of the fiscal year, hasn't been what you could call a "model employee" since his whatever you wish to call it (it's not important, as he's still employed by the school). I'm sure he's said some things privately about his direct supervisor that you feel would be grounds for firing for cause. Do you believe, as I do, that IF he would like, we should offer to employ him to be an ambassador for App State? I feel we'd be stupid not to, but going on what you've said above, he should be dismissed immediately.
Let's put it this way. I love coach Moore and always will I believe. If he is making remarks that are damaging to the university that can be found on a message board his pay needs to stop TODAY!!!
One other thing is that a member of the family can be wrong.
My last comment on the subject is that I am not positive this unknown prof said what was quoted to begin with, and all along I have kept this up expectiong someone to bring that up.
Dude, in what world is AppVa's friend making comments in a private conversation damaging to the university? It was a conversation between friends, not an on-record, public exposé on the lackluster academic rigors of UNCC's undergrad.

Its pretty common knowledge that a degree from UNCC doesn't hold much prestige anyway. I really don't understand why you're getting so upset other than some sort of allegiance to them.

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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:58 am

bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote: It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Wow. You'd say that about a member of the Appalachian Family. Stand down.
Yes NO
One of my closest buddies from second grade-on graduated from UNC-C. I consider him as close as anything I have to a brother, so other than banter and smack talk, I wouldn't trash the school, as I wouldn't want to trash him (we're steering clear of this Conference USA mess presently, though he does feel we belong alongside them).

That said, I also won't call a member of my ASU...excuse me...App State Family, that I didn't otherwise know, lazy or unqualified. In part, because of her degree from Appalachian she is qualified to teach at UNC-Charlotte (according to her bosses). She is also qualified to have opinions about the type of student that comes through her class and express them privately. I'm also going to make a safe assumption that she was both off the clock and off campus, which makes your argument moot in the eyes of the law.

Let's take this a step further. Coach Moore, who is still under contract to the school until the end of the fiscal year, hasn't been what you could call a "model employee" since his whatever you wish to call it (it's not important, as he's still employed by the school). I'm sure he's said some things privately about his direct supervisor that you feel would be grounds for firing for cause. Do you believe, as I do, that IF he would like, we should offer to employ him to be an ambassador for App State? I feel we'd be stupid not to, but going on what you've said above, he should be dismissed immediately.
Let's put it this way. I love coach Moore and always will I believe. If he is making remarks that are damaging to the university that can be found on a message board his pay needs to stop TODAY!!!
One other thing is that a member of the family can be wrong.
My last comment on the subject is that I am not positive this unknown prof said what was quoted to begin with, and all along I have kept this up expectiong someone to bring that up.
Glad I could play into your hands? I don't think either one has anything to worry about, as I said before. Any comment made in private off the clock and off premises won't hold up in a court of law. Especially ones that are relayed on a message board. Other than that hot blond that's dating that French guy on that commercial, I don't think anyone else takes what's on the Internet as gospel (not saying this is, or is not, but I'll take JT at his word).

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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:04 pm

bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote: It also looks like anyone with a pulse can teach there. If she feels the need to talk about her employer that way she should not be cashing his check. She should go somewhere else and then expound on her theory. Of course she may be too lazy or unqualified to go elswhere. My point is, be loyal to your employer or leave. OR If you really want to be someone who offers value rather than just cashing a check you could shut your mouth and work to improve the quality of the program.
Wow. You'd say that about a member of the Appalachian Family. Stand down.
Yes NO
One of my closest buddies from second grade-on graduated from UNC-C. I consider him as close as anything I have to a brother, so other than banter and smack talk, I wouldn't trash the school, as I wouldn't want to trash him (we're steering clear of this Conference USA mess presently, though he does feel we belong alongside them).

That said, I also won't call a member of my ASU...excuse me...App State Family, that I didn't otherwise know, lazy or unqualified. In part, because of her degree from Appalachian she is qualified to teach at UNC-Charlotte (according to her bosses). She is also qualified to have opinions about the type of student that comes through her class and express them privately. I'm also going to make a safe assumption that she was both off the clock and off campus, which makes your argument moot in the eyes of the law.

Let's take this a step further. Coach Moore, who is still under contract to the school until the end of the fiscal year, hasn't been what you could call a "model employee" since his whatever you wish to call it (it's not important, as he's still employed by the school). I'm sure he's said some things privately about his direct supervisor that you feel would be grounds for firing for cause. Do you believe, as I do, that IF he would like, we should offer to employ him to be an ambassador for App State? I feel we'd be stupid not to, but going on what you've said above, he should be dismissed immediately.
Let's put it this way. I love coach Moore and always will I believe. If he is making remarks that are damaging to the university that can be found on a message board his pay needs to stop TODAY!!!
One other thing is that a member of the family can be wrong.
My last comment on the subject is that I am not positive this unknown prof said what was quoted to begin with, and all along I have kept this up expectiong someone to bring that up.
I'd be willing to bet that if the professor said what was attributed, the professor did so with no intention of it ending up on a message board. Employees are allowed to voice frustrations in a personal conversation without being labled as "lazy." Your concern shouldn't be with the professor, but with the person sharing a confidential conversation.

Additionally, how do you know that the professor isn't working to change things at UNCC to the way they think it should be? You're making a big assumption that the professor simply voiced an opinion and then is sitting back and cashing checks. This person is owed more than the story you've constructed with the disclaimer, of course, that your story only applies if the professor actually made said statement.
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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:05 pm

Gonzo wrote: Dude, in what world is AppVa's friend making comments in a private conversation damaging to the university? It was a conversation between friends, not an on-record, public exposé on the lackluster academic rigors of UNCC's undergrad.

Its pretty common knowledge that a degree from UNCC doesn't hold much prestige anyway. I really don't understand why you're getting so upset other than some sort of allegiance to them.
Damn. My bonjour photo didn't work.
It was JT's friend, but yep. Coincidentally, my friend holds a job in the IT department at UNC-C. If they knew that he felt ASU should be in C-USA, they may fire him, though. :lol:

Hope Judy Rose doesn't see this. Though bcoach would have no problem with it. :lol:
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Unread post by bcoach » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:09 pm

Your right. I went overboard.

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Unread post by asumike83 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:23 pm

I wish somebody had told me before we changed the name of this place to the 49er Message Board...

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Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:24 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Gonzo wrote: Dude, in what world is AppVa's friend making comments in a private conversation damaging to the university? It was a conversation between friends, not an on-record, public exposé on the lackluster academic rigors of UNCC's undergrad.

Its pretty common knowledge that a degree from UNCC doesn't hold much prestige anyway. I really don't understand why you're getting so upset other than some sort of allegiance to them.
Damn. My bonjour photo didn't work.
It was JT's friend, but yep. Coincidentally, my friend holds a job in the IT department at UNC-C. If they knew that he felt ASU should be in C-USA, they may fire him, though. :lol:

Hope Judy Rose doesn't see this. Though bcoach would have no problem with it. :lol:
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Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:26 pm

asumike83 wrote:I wish somebody had told me before we changed the name of this place to the 49er Message Board...
It's just one thread, Mike. AGS is much worse.

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Unread post by hapapp » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:29 pm

Gonzo wrote:
asumike83 wrote:I wish somebody had told me before we changed the name of this place to the 49er Message Board...
It's just one thread, Mike. AGS is much worse.

And some of our fans make it worse.

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asumike83 wrote:I wish somebody had told me before we changed the name of this place to the 49er Message Board...
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hapapp wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
asumike83 wrote:I wish somebody had told me before we changed the name of this place to the 49er Message Board...
It's just one thread, Mike. AGS is much worse.

And some of our fans make it worse.
Ditto. I feel similarly about the ones who went over to the AGS and trashed coach Moore, unecessarily.
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AppinVA wrote:
Gonzo wrote: Dude, in what world is AppVa's friend making comments in a private conversation damaging to the university? It was a conversation between friends, not an on-record, public exposé on the lackluster academic rigors of UNCC's undergrad.

Its pretty common knowledge that a degree from UNCC doesn't hold much prestige anyway. I really don't understand why you're getting so upset other than some sort of allegiance to them.
Damn. My bonjour photo didn't work.
It was JT's friend, but yep. Coincidentally, my friend holds a job in the IT department at UNC-C. If they knew that he felt ASU should be in C-USA, they may fire him, though. :lol:

Hope Judy Rose doesn't see this. Though bcoach would have no problem with it. :lol:
The bonjour photo came through on my screen. I thought it was an accurate analogy. Rep point.
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Re: UNCC sees recruiting boost

Unread post by ImfromClayton » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:48 am

http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/new ... alary.html

Hate to post this and ruin a good discussion using things like "facts" and "reality."

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