ECU

[BeauFoster]

Itll be a long time before UNC lets the legislature force them to play ECU again

[appst1992]

ECU has risen to the best football team in NC. Congrats to them.

[JTApps1]

I'm willing to offer congrats to three of our "alumni coaches" Ruffin McNeil, John Wiley and Donnie Kirkpatrick. They must be doing something right, way down east. Anybody who beats Carolina is a friend of mine. This is two years in a row.

Larry Fedora may wish he could have his ol' Southern Miss job back before this next week is over. He and his family are in for a lot of misery in Chapel Hill this week.

Everyone thought Ruffin was about to be run out of town a few years ago as he tried to clean house and rebuild the roster. Now all the young guys are veterans. I hope our fans will have the patience to give SS and crew time to coach our young players once they are experienced.

[Black Saturday]

I'm willing to offer congrats to three of our "alumni coaches" Ruffin McNeil, John Wiley and Donnie Kirkpatrick. They must be doing something right, way down east. Anybody who beats Carolina is a friend of mine. This is two years in a row.

Larry Fedora may wish he could have his ol' Southern Miss job back before this next week is over. He and his family are in for a lot of misery in Chapel Hill this week.

Everyone thought Ruffin was about to be run out of town a few years ago as he tried to clean house and rebuild the roster. Now all the young guys are veterans. I hope our fans will have the patience to give SS and crew time to coach our young players once they are experienced.

No problem with that from me, It'll take SS time to build his own program based on the shape of the one he inherited.

[appgrad81]

I'm willing to offer congrats to three of our "alumni coaches" Ruffin McNeil, John Wiley and Donnie Kirkpatrick. They must be doing something right, way down east. Anybody who beats Carolina is a friend of mine. This is two years in a row.

Larry Fedora may wish he could have his ol' Southern Miss job back before this next week is over. He and his family are in for a lot of misery in Chapel Hill this week.

Everyone thought Ruffin was about to be run out of town a few years ago as he tried to clean house and rebuild the roster. Now all the young guys are veterans. I hope our fans will have the patience to give SS and crew time to coach our young players once they are experienced.

I was at the ECU game yesterday ( son is a Jr at ECU ), whew what a game! If you blinked it seemed you would miss a great play by ECU. I am proud of all ASU has done so far and look forward to what we can accomplish in the Sunbelt. But it would be a great day to host UNC or State at our house like ECU did yesterday. The atmosphere all over town was just great, tailgating in the Harris Teeter parking lot was perfect (easy access to bathroom, beer and ice) and the school spirit was all over town. The Boneyard was rocking! Students with lots of school spirit and close to the end zone! It's time for ASU to remove that track! It would so improve the game day at The Rock. Students didn't leave at halftime. I can't wait until we can have game day experiences like I saw yesterday in Greenville. And yes, we need to give SS and his staff time. Also, it was nice to see the City of Greenville embrace ECU and the game. The Town of Boone enjoys giving tickets on game day in Boone.

[Black Saturday]

Boone is one of the most wonderful places to watch a football game that I know.

However, over the last decade ASU has made great strides in playing catch up to the likes of ECU, which left the SoCon/SmallCon environment nearly 40 years ago. APP didn't get out maybe when it should have or maybe there is a blend of not having enough visionaries involved for us to be there now?

ECU/Greenville's current kind of football embracing atmosphere wasn't built overnight, and will take the same effort with all facets of Appalachian State University, the High Country community and the Sun Belt Conference pulling together make it happen.

College Football has become a huge money making machine even more so than it was, It'll take some combination progressive thinkers from all parties involved to step forward and say, "We can make it happen, and here's how we are going to do it?

Step 1 was leaving the Southern Conference.

Hopefully Step 2 is being implemented with more steps to follow.

[goapps93]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

[Black Saturday]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Boone is a beautiful place, but when I when I graduated, it was 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out of Boone for the less than 10K students, a decade before that ('70s) there were probably half that many students. Now it's 4 lanes in and out and what 16-17k+ students? Boone and the High Country loves Mom and Dads money=Growth.

Universities are just like having for the most part huge corporation to help stimulate a local economy.

The economy of Boone/High Country that ASU helped build isn't much different than the partnership of ECU/Greenville 20k+ students. I think if either University were to disappear from either town there would be greatly missed. They both need each other.

[luvyosef]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Boone is a beautiful place, but when I when I graduated, it was 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out of Boone for the less than 10K students, a decade before that ('70s) there were probably half that many students. Now it's 4 lanes in and out and what 16-17k+ students? Boone and the High Country loves Mom and Dads money=Growth.

Universities are just like having for the most part huge corporation to help stimulate a local economy.

The economy of Boone/High Country that ASU helped build isn't much different than the partnership of ECU/Greenville 20k+ students. I think if either University were to disappear from either town there would be greatly missed. They both need each other.

Perot warned us and that's all I'll say about that.

[NewApp]

I'm willing to offer congrats to three of our "alumni coaches" Ruffin McNeil, John Wiley and Donnie Kirkpatrick. They must be doing something right, way down east. Anybody who beats Carolina is a friend of mine. This is two years in a row.

Larry Fedora may wish he could have his ol' Southern Miss job back before this next week is over. He and his family are in for a lot of misery in Chapel Hill this week.

Everyone thought Ruffin was about to be run out of town a few years ago as he tried to clean house and rebuild the roster. Now all the young guys are veterans. I hope our fans will have the patience to give SS and crew time to coach our young players once they are experienced.

No problem with that from me, It'll take SS time to build his own program based on the shape of the one he inherited.

It's Bush's fault.

[NewApp]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Boone is a beautiful place, but when I when I graduated, it was 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out of Boone for the less than 10K students, a decade before that ('70s) there were probably half that many students. Now it's 4 lanes in and out and what 16-17k+ students? Boone and the High Country loves Mom and Dads money=Growth.

Universities are just like having for the most part huge corporation to help stimulate a local economy.

The economy of Boone/High Country that ASU helped build isn't much different than the partnership of ECU/Greenville 20k+ students. I think if either University were to disappear from either town there would be greatly missed. They both need each other.

NAFTA hasn't hurt as much as that only covers North America and the same with CAFTA as it covers Central America. What hurts is the trade with China...giving them Most Favored Nation Status.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Not to get this all political, but since you broached the subject, and I DO NOT care for Clinton, but NAFTA was started under Bush I. Not trying to sound all pro-Clinton but just wanting to make sure the history is remembered correctly.

Here is a tidbit from Wikipedia.
"Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1986 among the three nations, the leaders met in San Antonio, Texas, on December 17, 1992, to sign NAFTA. .US. President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed it. The signed agreement then needed to be authorized by each nation's legislative or parliamentary branch."

Also Surgeon General Koop really got the ball rolling with some of the anti-tobacco policies. Koop was a Reagan appointee first but he also served for Bush I. It seems Koop issued the first report on second hand smoke, which has been fodder to pass anti-smoking legislation (and I would add rightly so as an editorial.)

Also from Wikipedia.
"Tobacco
In his 1988 Report of the Surgeon General, it was reported that nicotine has an addictiveness similar to that of heroin or cocaine. Koop's report was somewhat unexpected, especially by those who expected him to maintain the status quo in regard to his office's position on tobacco products. During his tenure, in 1984, Congress passed legislation providing for new, rotated health warning labels on cigarette packs and required advertising to include the labels. Those labels remain unchanged today. New labels containing graphic depictions of smoking-caused illness and death have been announced by the FDA, but are on hold pending the outcome of tobacco industry legal challenges. Koop issued a challenge to Americans in 1984 to "create a smoke-free society in the United States by the year 2000."[23] As Surgeon General, he released eight reports on the health consequences of tobacco use,[24] including the first report on the health consequences of involuntary tobacco smoke exposure. During Koop's tenure as Surgeon General, smoking rates in the United States declined significantly from 38% to 27%.[

[Black Saturday]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Boone is a beautiful place, but when I when I graduated, it was 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out of Boone for the less than 10K students, a decade before that ('70s) there were probably half that many students. Now it's 4 lanes in and out and what 16-17k+ students? Boone and the High Country loves Mom and Dads money=Growth.

Universities are just like having for the most part huge corporation to help stimulate a local economy.

The economy of Boone/High Country that ASU helped build isn't much different than the partnership of ECU/Greenville 20k+ students. I think if either University were to disappear from either town there would be greatly missed. They both need each other.

Perot warned us and that's all I'll say about that.

Now there is an inordinate amount of the population of my area that waits for Uncle Sam to send them a check each month.

[Black Saturday]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Not to get this all political, but since you broached the subject, and I DO NOT care for Clinton, but NAFTA was started under Bush I. Not trying to sound all pro-Clinton but just wanting to make sure the history is remembered correctly.

Here is a tidbit from Wikipedia.
"Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1986 among the three nations, the leaders met in San Antonio, Texas, on December 17, 1992, to sign NAFTA. .US. President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed it. The signed agreement then needed to be authorized by each nation's legislative or parliamentary branch."

Also Surgeon General Koop really got the ball rolling with some of the anti-tobacco policies. Koop was a Reagan appointee first but he also served for Bush I. It seems Koop issued the first report on second hand smoke, which has been fodder to pass anti-smoking legislation (and I would add rightly so as an editorial.)

Also from Wikipedia.
"Tobacco
In his 1988 Report of the Surgeon General, it was reported that nicotine has an addictiveness similar to that of heroin or cocaine. Koop's report was somewhat unexpected, especially by those who expected him to maintain the status quo in regard to his office's position on tobacco products. During his tenure, in 1984, Congress passed legislation providing for new, rotated health warning labels on cigarette packs and required advertising to include the labels. Those labels remain unchanged today. New labels containing graphic depictions of smoking-caused illness and death have been announced by the FDA, but are on hold pending the outcome of tobacco industry legal challenges. Koop issued a challenge to Americans in 1984 to "create a smoke-free society in the United States by the year 2000."[23] As Surgeon General, he released eight reports on the health consequences of tobacco use,[24] including the first report on the health consequences of involuntary tobacco smoke exposure. During Koop's tenure as Surgeon General, smoking rates in the United States declined significantly from 38% to 27%.[

While you are looking up about the health and wellness of everyone,

wanna figure why alcohol gets a comparatively free pass and hasn't been snuffed like tobacco?

I'd wager that alcohol has caused more detriment to people on way or another than tobacco.

Disclaimer - I dont use tobacco, but do take a little nip on occasion.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Not to get this all political, but since you broached the subject, and I DO NOT care for Clinton, but NAFTA was started under Bush I. Not trying to sound all pro-Clinton but just wanting to make sure the history is remembered correctly.

Here is a tidbit from Wikipedia.
"Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1986 among the three nations, the leaders met in San Antonio, Texas, on December 17, 1992, to sign NAFTA. .US. President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed it. The signed agreement then needed to be authorized by each nation's legislative or parliamentary branch."

Also Surgeon General Koop really got the ball rolling with some of the anti-tobacco policies. Koop was a Reagan appointee first but he also served for Bush I. It seems Koop issued the first report on second hand smoke, which has been fodder to pass anti-smoking legislation (and I would add rightly so as an editorial.)

Also from Wikipedia.
"Tobacco
In his 1988 Report of the Surgeon General, it was reported that nicotine has an addictiveness similar to that of heroin or cocaine. Koop's report was somewhat unexpected, especially by those who expected him to maintain the status quo in regard to his office's position on tobacco products. During his tenure, in 1984, Congress passed legislation providing for new, rotated health warning labels on cigarette packs and required advertising to include the labels. Those labels remain unchanged today. New labels containing graphic depictions of smoking-caused illness and death have been announced by the FDA, but are on hold pending the outcome of tobacco industry legal challenges. Koop issued a challenge to Americans in 1984 to "create a smoke-free society in the United States by the year 2000."[23] As Surgeon General, he released eight reports on the health consequences of tobacco use,[24] including the first report on the health consequences of involuntary tobacco smoke exposure. During Koop's tenure as Surgeon General, smoking rates in the United States declined significantly from 38% to 27%.[

While you are looking up about the health and wellness of everyone,

wanna figure why alcohol gets a comparatively free pass and hasn't been snuffed like tobacco?

I'd wager that alcohol has caused more detriment to people on way or another than tobacco.

Disclaimer - I dont use tobacco, but do take a little nip on occasion.

I think you are guilty of this http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skep ... digression

But I'll bit and then we need to move this to a non football folder. Yes, I agree we should be wary of the health effects of -OH bonded liquids. They both need to be regulated highly and controlled. Not so much as to make them illegal but controlled enough. Keep out the gangsters, but not make it so easy. One difference about alcohol is that one can drink a lot and kill one's liver and other organs, but that does not effect me. It is darn near impossible to smoke and not eventually turn the smoke into 2nd-hand smoke. Other thing is that alcohol in small doses and moderation can be beneficial. Granted we are not talking getting drunk but red wine can benefits for one example. I don't think there is anything good about tobacco in a pro health way starting with puff one.

[Rekdiver]

I went to the Panthers game tonight. About 30% of the people there wore Steelers jerseys. Nothing burns my ass more than my hometown stadium full of the opposing teams fans or reading about freaking ECU or any other school on Yosefs Cabin. I am a Mountaineer and all I want to read about on this site pertains to all things Appalachian. My rant for the evening

[asu66]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

Everything is relative.

Pitt County has a population in excess of 173,000 people (2013). ECU, including Brody School of Med and Vidant Health Care, is far and away the largest employer in Pitt County. That's 12,459 full and part-time employees in 2013.

Watauga County has a population of under 53,000 people (2013). ASU is far and away the largest employer in Watauga County. That's 2,892 full and part-time employees in 2013.

Several attractive doctoral dissertations could be designed to take an indepth look at the very complex economic impact of ECU and ASU on their respective communities. I think a fair statement would be that both communities would be a mere shadow of themselves without the human and economic resources provided by two of NC's largest and finest state universities.

Boone would be a tiny, poor mountain village without AppState's students, faculty and staff. Period. Greenville would be an endangered (low income-high unemployment) small town rather than a vibrant small city without ECU/Brody/Vidant.

[goapps93]

Greenville and Boone are also vastly different. ECU has done more for Greenville that ASU has done for Boone. Boone would still be a really nice town and tourist destination w/out ASU's growth over the years. ECU has made Greenville what it is. Greenville would be just another mid-sized eastern NC town if not for ECU and the Brody School of Medicine. Greenville appreciates, for the most part, what ECU has done for Greenville. The majority of the people and industry in and around Greenville would not be there if it wasn't for ECU the medical school. There is really nothing else about Greenville that is attractive. Having lived in ENC for over 10 years now I can truthfully say that it really is in a different world form WNC. The whole region really gets behind the Pirates, there's really nothing else east of I-95.

I live east of I-95 and go to the beaches often. My point was that the people in the region really get behind the Pirates because there are not other major programs to pull for. They truly are a regional university and this is a big region with not much competition. The west is different.

The high country is a destination and not as much dependent on ASU's growth, sure it helps but not as much as ECU's growth and success helps Greenville and ENC. Boone would still be a nice place to visit and vacation without ASU, Greenville would not and even is not. It thrives because of ECU and the med school.


there's really nothing else east of I-95.


WoW!

Ever been to the beaches or any part coastal NC?

Thank the Clintons for NAFTA and the Giant Sucking sound of textile jobs headed out of ENC and for killing the Tobacco economy for the Eastern part of NC as well. I know first hand.

Boone is a beautiful place, but when I when I graduated, it was 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out of Boone for the less than 10K students, a decade before that ('70s) there were probably half that many students. Now it's 4 lanes in and out and what 16-17k+ students? Boone and the High Country loves Mom and Dads money=Growth.

Universities are just like having for the most part huge corporation to help stimulate a local economy.

The economy of Boone/High Country that ASU helped build isn't much different than the partnership of ECU/Greenville 20k+ students. I think if either University were to disappear from either town there would be greatly missed. They both need each other.

[WVAPPeer]

Black Saturday says -
"Now there is an inordinate amount of the population of my area that waits for Uncle Sam to send them a check each month."

Are you dissing me my friend? - you better be careful or we Old-heads might report you for Elder Abuse

[StillJonesn]

Carden is a good QB, no doubt about that. UNC has a terrible D, no doubt about that either.

In the last 2 years UNC has only given up more than 29 points twice, both to ECU. They gave up 55 last year to the ECU and 70 this year so otherwise they've been pretty respectable vs everyone else. They also had won 8 of the 9 games between those ECU beatdowns. Maybe we are just that good on offense? The offense had no problem moving the ball on a Bud Foster D or @ South Carolina either.